Charlie also went very clearly on record that Marshy "teaching" the siddhis was a mistake
________________________________ From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A Charlie Lutes audio 'The Highest Teaching' Seems Charlie Lutes was older and adult when he was around TM. He evidently was around spirituality before meeting Maharishi. He obviously came along a longer path than many of us college aged who early started TM during the popular time of TM movement in the late 60's and early 70's. He was quite a spokesperson for Knowledge. Seems leaders now themselves don't tend to have this kind of depth in spiritual ethic and value where they can step out of a box and draw and quote across traditions to lead and argue for the position Lutes does in this talk. Current TM seems to have pulled back in to a canned material and can seem tame and unable to call out on people for spiritual activism this way Charlie Lutes is doing. -Buck Wow, what a soldier of the Truth. Advanced lecture? Fundamental TM. Old style call, plain and straight prosecution of the goal: This is what we are about, Take stock of yourself. Charlie Lutes: The Highest Teaching is Transcendental Meditation as taught by certified teachers. The Highest Teaching is Transcendental Meditation ... It's not enough to be given the highest teaching on Earth. What do we do with it? Persevere. Morning and Evening, twice a day devotion to our meditation as w... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo You added the tag-line 'as taught by certified teachers'. He did not say that in the lecture. punditster wrote : Subject: Charles F. Lutes - a tribute Author: John Manning Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: December, 5, 2002 Google Groups Google Groups Google Groups allows you to create and participate in online forums and email-based groups with a rich experience for community conversations. View on tinyurl.com Preview by Yahoo I never heard a complete Charlie Lutes lecture before. He was always considered off the program and ostracized by straight TM. This is pretty hardcore TM. I take great heart from this lecture. How did he fall out of favor? -Buck TurquoiseBee [FairfieldLife] wrote: You added the tag-line 'as taught by certified teachers'. He did not say that in the lecture. >> >> >> >> >> >>Typical TM True Believer posturing and misinformation from "mail_uzer" -- Charlie died years before there was even such a thing as "certified" TM teachers. And anyone who knew him knows that had "recertification" happened during in his lifetime and been demanded of him, Charlie would have died before submitting to it. He would have considered it an insult...and he would have been correct. >Non sequitur. Charles F. Lutes was not a TM Teacher, certified or not. He was a businessman, an executive of SRM, speaker, and certified by MMY as a TM Guide.All TM Teachers were certified by MMY. Charles Lutes was the first TMer in the USA in 1959. For many years the only TM Teacher in the US was Beaulah Smith. > > > You added the tag-line 'as taught by certified teachers'. He did not say that in the lecture. >> >> >> >> >> >>Typical TM True Believer posturing and misinformation from "mail_uzer" -- Charlie died years before there was even such a thing as "certified" TM teachers. And anyone who knew him knows that had "recertification" happened during in his lifetime and been demanded of him, Charlie would have died before submitting to it. He would have considered it an insult...and he would have been correct. >Non sequitur. Charles F. Lutes was not a TM Teacher, certified or not. He was a businessman, an executive of SRM, speaker, and certified by MMY as a TM Guide.All TM Teachers were certified by MMY. Charles Lutes was the first TMer in the USA in 1959. For many years the only TM Teacher in the US was Beaulah Smith. > > >