On 10/23/2014 9:29 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
>
Richard, your posts remind me of how much I appreciate David Deida and
other teachers who suggest that the "old" ways of liberation are best
suited to masculine physiologies.
He also compares a soul to the light coming in from a stained glass
window, which is the body. Via yoga practices we attempt to clean the
dirt off the window. Via therapy we attempt to fix the cracks in the
glass.
But at a certain point, we realize we are the light. End of cleaning
and fixing!
>
It's like the Zen koan: Polishing a Tile to Make a Mirror:
/There was a zen student named Tai-i who was always sitting in
meditation. His master Matsu asked him: "For what purpose are you
sitting in meditation?"//
//
//The student answered: "I am trying to become a Buddha."//
//
//So, the Zen Master picked up a tile and started rubbing it.//
//
//The student asked: "For what purpose are you rubbing a tile?"//
//
//The Zen Master replied "I am rubbing this tile to make a mirror."//
//
//The student asked: "How can you rub a tile to make a mirror?"//
//
//To which the Zen Master answered: "How can you make a Buddha by
sitting and meditating?"/
Zen Buddhism: A History Volume 1
by Heinrich Dumoulin
MacMillan, 1994
pp. 160-163
http://www.absolutoracle.com/Notezen/Articles/koan1.htm
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:11 AM, "'Richard J. Williams'
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
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On 10/23/2014 7:14 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
<mailto:sharelon...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Could it be that we're simply compelled by neural pathways in our
brain that want to be activated?
>
/According to MMY it is the nature of the mind to want to enjoy - it's
only natural for anyone to want to be free from suffering. He said
that "the way into bliss is the way out of suffering."//
//
//So, nobody wants to suffer but in fact, suffering is a given in
life: we all suffer from repeated birth, old age, sickness and
eventual death. The truth is that we are all bound by karma, either
from this life or from a previous life. There is no exception to
karma, from the highest god or deva down to a single blade of grass. //
//
//The idea behind yoga is to provide the ideal opportunity for
awakening to the truth of how things really are. If you know the truth
you will be free. Yoga is immortality and freedom. //
//
//According to yoga theory, you build up samskaras due to karma - the
actions in this life and in your past lives. You can remove the
samskaras through tapas - "burning off" the accumulated layers of past
actions through meditation and other yoga practices. But a practice
will not remove all the samskaras - even for an accomplished "yogi"
there's always a trace of karma because they still maintain a human
body with air, water, and food, coarse or fine, and thoughts,
volitions and desires. //
//
//A "siddha" yogi is one who has realized the truth and is totally
free while still in living in a human body, a "jivan-mukti" - for them
there is no return; everything has been done that needs to be done;
gone to the other shore; totally gone. No come back no more.//Free./
>
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Well said Barry - and I agree with every word
It's NOT that I'm saying that seeking spiritual experiences ISN'T
valuable. I'm just pointing out that almost no one in history has
ever stepped up to the plate and made an objective, scientific case
for what that value might be.