Richard, I also appreciate Maharishi's distinction between and enlightened
person and an enlightened teacher. The person maybe popped into enlightenment
while eating a strawberry. So then he or she teaches the strawberry eating
technique.
OTOH, an enlightened teacher has such a perspective that he or she can see
exactly where you are in your journey. And can genuinely help you along your
path.
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:25 AM, "'Richard J. Williams'
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
On 10/23/2014 9:02 AM, inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
>
You are very good at quoting scripture and contents of text books (and there is
a value to that), but when you look to the honesty of your moment to moment
experience - What do you find?
>
Teachers and textbooks are like fingers pointing at the moon - they are valid
means of knowledge - we all depend on verbal testimony for most of our
understanding. SBS compared enlightenment to "Light" (Brahman). The Absolute is
already there; it doesn't require anything else to illuminate it because it is
an already established fact. The enlightened state is described in the Indian
rice analogy: you can remove the chaff and it's still rice paddy. All you have
to do is isolate the relative from the absolute and be free. Just don't fall
into the false belief that the pointing finger is the moon itself.
>
Put aside traditions and ancient wisdom - they are not relevant today
>
In this day and age hardly anyone reads or understands the Sanskrit
scriptures. The only hope for enlightenment in this age of Kali is to practice
karma yoga - giving up the fruits of your labor for the common good and seeking
out a qualified teacher so you can work out your karma with diligence.
>
What are you bringing to the table?
>
"As in a pond, when its influx of water has been blocked, dries up gradually
through evaporation and use, so karmic matter, which has been acquired through
millions of lives, is erased through yoga; there is no further unflux" - Wallah
Sutra, I.4
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