On 11/15/2014 4:23 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
Sal is adjusting his speak every day now. Watch out, one of these days
he'll even retract his extremely harsh judgements on the Crop Circles.
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"Adjusting his speak" - that's a good one! Apparently he already
believes in tall tales - he has yet to reply to Barry's levitation
claims about Rama. Go figure.
/"And I don't just mean explaining things away, to be convincing you
have to show that something more realistic happened, more credible and
using explanations we already understand and are known to happen in
certain circumstances."/ - salyavin808
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :
Salyavin, I love your last paragraph: folklore in action; techno ghost
stories for the nuclear age. As for me, I believe there is life
somewhere else in the vast universe. And I think they are more highly
advanced than us and maybe here with us. And I think it's great.
We can believe what we like. I have no opinion on intelligent life
elsewhere, we don't know the variables that allow for it to develop.
We could be unique or the universe could be teeming or maybe there's
just one or two per galaxy over it's entire history. But the chances
of there being other humanoids visiting Earth at the just same time as
we've understood where we are cosmically? It beggars belief. Alien
craft is the least likely explanation for UFO's. But I hope it's true.
But at that point, I'm more like turq. It doesn't really impact my
life one way or the other. Either way, what is the action step? (-:
I don't know, just enjoy the ride, the evolving myth. We are
apparently on the brink of something called "disclosure". We've been
here before a few times as I recall, it never amounts to much but it's
fun watching the TB's get excited that their favourite daydream is to
be officially confirmed.
But it won't be, the UFO's won't land and Maitreya won't appear. It's
the way of things. The connection between the two is that people want
there to be more, want there to be a reason and for there to be
salvation from a higher power, whether it's alien or spiritual. We're
talking deep human needs here.
*From:* salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, November 15, 2014 3:06 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
Sal doesn't like UFO's because they aren't scientific :-)
It's an interesting point Nabs. The thing is one can only get
scientific about something if it is available to study, UFO's are so
fleeting and ephemeral that there really isn't anything to study other
than hearsay or suspiciously absent film taken by higher powers to
keep the whole thing secret.
But a great many people have studied what they can about UFO
sightings, and done it with as much rigour as you can with such a
paucity of hard evidence. I'm not sure there is an encounter that
hasn't got a better explanation that doesn't involve us being visited
by beings from another world. And I don't just mean explaining things
away, to be convincing you have to show that something more realistic
happened, more credible and using explanations we already understand
and are known to happen in certain circumstances. Even testing soil
damage and skin burns for alternative causes. People are being
scientific about UFO's.
But here's the thing you overlook in your quip, I've been interested
in UFO's for as long as I remember, I've a got a shelf full of the
classic books on the subject. Even the true believer stuff from
"serious" researchers like Timothy Good and the abductionists like Bud
Hopkins. I bet I know all the great encounters by heart - Cortile,
Ramirez, Roswell, Pascagoula, Ilkley Moor, Rendlesham...
I love it but I don't take it at face value. To me, UFO's are folklore
in action. The evolving myth of abduction and what they are supposedly
doing here are the legends of our time, a new religion, encapsulating
our fears about technology and promising us freedom from our
destructive ways, yet always remaining remarkably evidence free.
There's always a new vision to add to the mythos but conveniently
never any hard evidence to help decide one way or the other. And the
longer that scenario goes on the more convinced any casual observer
should be that we are kidding ourselves, because deep down we like
ghost stories and that's really what they are. Something scary always
just out of reach. Techno ghost stories for the nuclear age.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
I didn't really read what sal has written below, but I think the gist
of it is, that he doesn't like the person who coined the word "flying
saucer"
Is that what his dissertation is about this time?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
There is not one astronaut who has NOT reported seeing UFO's,
sometimes huge and in large nubers, back to NASA and/or their families.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
If Gordon is not crazy, then the American government is purposefully,
mindfully, ABSOLUTELY evil.
If there are aliens visiting us and we're not being told -- it robs
every person on Earth.
EVERY PERSON ON EARTH.
Neither you, nor I, nor anyone ever could possibly be who we are now
if we knew that UFOs are real.
IT. WOULD. CHANGE. EVERYTHING.
And that's why it might be kept a secret -- the concept "money" would
be bereft of allure.
If you say that it would NOT be "all that much of a big deal, cuz
everyone's so inured already by Hollywood films," then YOU DON'T KNOW
JACK SHIT ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY.
Every person in every way: changed.
Agreed. Luckily I don;t suppose it will come to that. Which is a shame
as I'd be the happiest person on Earth if it turned out that UFO's
were alien spacecraft, but the truth of sightings always turns out to
be more mundane.
Take the name "flying saucers", everyone sees saucer shaped craft but
the name is a mistake from the first encounter anyone had. Kenneth
Arnold (an experienced pilot) saw a squadron of highly reflective
crescent shaped aircraft flying at great speed in a V formation over
the Rocky mountains in 1947. He described them as flying like a saucer
would if skipped across water.
A journalist made up the name /flying saucer/ and after that everyone
saw saucer shaped craft when they saw something mysterious in the sky.
The power of suggestion. Sadly there's no such thing as a reliable
witness and any one can be fooled, Arnold most likely saw a flock of
pelicans and mistook them for unknown aircraft and miscalculated their
distance from him. We all make mistakes but the influence his mistake
had is immeasurable.
Because we people are so unreliable, if I had to bet I would say that
Cooper saw some atmospheric effect from flying at supersonic speed
that no one had noticed before and mistook it for real craft moving
above him.
And early radar was hopelessly unreliable, the UK air defence system
in the cold war was always telling us that giant UFOs were crossing
the north sea but when planes were scrambled to look it turned out to
have been temperature inversions confusing the equipment. When these
anomalies were understood and ironed out UFO reports stopped coming
in. It's the way it goes, people see stuff and imagination plugs any
gaps, popular culture is rife with imagery that came before the
sightings. I can't trust myself let alone anyone else!
I would like to see this film they took though but, I don't suppose we
ever will. That's the way it's always been with UFO's, you get an
incredible story that turns out to be something else or not to have
any supporting evidencefor whatever reason, and so much of it is
easily explained away. I wish it were otherwise. I wish it were true.
I want to believe!
But it'd be a most curious coincidence if a journalist's artistic
license in describing saucers actually coincided with real saucers
appearing from another world. What are the chances of that?
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