By the way, I see that your plans for a revolutionary uprising have been given 
a blow with a ban on the importing of Kalashnikovs from Russia! Pea shooters 
and spud guns to the rescue? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30404648 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30404648
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Your disabilities people probably don't have any power in the UK like they do 
in the US.  These would be called "wheelchair inaccessible".  A wall won't take 
care of the smell and these are obviously more sanitary too.
 
 On 12/14/2014 04:30 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
 
   These "open-view" urinals for men have just started appearing in London. I 
can't see why they don't just instruct the gentlemen to go and piss against a 
nearby wall.
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 San Francisco wanted to put in toilets downtown on the streets.  A French 
company makes self cleaning units which were ideal.  They could only 
accommodate one person at a time and so drug dealers couldn't use them which 
was a concern.  Then the Disabilities People yelled and they had to get ones 
that were large enough for them.  Which meant that drug dealers could use them. 
 The French company doesn't make them like that and I think the ones they got 
aren't self cleaning.
 
 I think it would have been a better idea to pass a law requiring 
establishments to allow the disabled to use their facilities and leave the 
single user systems on the street.  Of course that would have caused yet 
another kerfuffle. 
 
 On 12/14/2014 03:38 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
 
   For anyone thinking of visiting the UK be aware we have some of the most 
disgusting public toilets this side of a Third World hell-hole during a 
dysentery outbreak. 
 
 I'm serious. Make sure you buy a "Radar Key" (£2:45 on Amazon) - which gets 
you access to toilets for the disabled. They're the only ones maintained to a 
decent standard apart from expensive facilities at tourist traps. Otherwise 
you'll have to stock up on disposable toilet seat covers, pocket tissue 
sachets, and you'll have to learn the art of sitting on the loo with one leg 
outstretched to keep the cubicle door shut as the lock is invariably broken. 
 The best place for numerous, free and clean public toilets is Tokyo.  That 
could be a better holiday destination. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<seerdope@...> mailto:seerdope@... wrote :
 
 

 

 Assessing civilization by it its number of toilets is a wonderful metric and 
embodies all that makes the United States (and Netherlands) the greatest 
countries in the world.  Toilets are a grand testament to our technological 
savvy in designing billion dollar systems to rid ourselves of icky stuff.  I 
mean its just organic crap like  nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium and all 
that boring like chemistry stuff   Good riddance.  Far more sophisticated to 
use civilized chemical fertilizers. We get to to use all those magnificent big, 
high tech mining machines to transform the earth from mere dirt to huge 
craters. Ah the glories western civilization.  We rock. And look at countries 
like india -- they produce only 10% as much CO2 per capital of the US (15% as 
much as the Dutch). What losers. 
 

 Would you believe that I actually read "Small is Beautiful back the mid 70's. 
I have to laugh -- back in college  I was so deluded. What a hoot. A totally 
looney-bin hippie manifesto. Schumaker probably hated toilets. and would have 
tooted graywater and growing fresh vegetables. As if !.  I am glad men of the 
world like us see through such garbage. Came across a review the other day. I 
think the copious amounts of acid his mother must of taken never really left 
the writers brain. 
 

 " Small is Beautiful was a radical challenge to the 20th century's 
intoxication with what Schumacher described as "gigantism". For several 
decades, mass production methods were producing more cheap goods than ever 
before; the mass media and mass culture opened up new opportunities to a wider 
audience than ever. It was creating bigger markets and bigger political 
entities. .. he believed such scale led to a dehumanisation of people and the 
economic systems that ordered their lives.
 
 
 One of the recurrent themes through the book is how modern organisations 
stripped the satisfaction out of work, making the worker no more than an 
anonymous cog in a huge machine. Craft skill was no longer important, nor was 
the quality of human relationship: human beings were expected to act like 
adjuncts to the machines of the production line. The economic system was 
similarly dehumanising, making decisions on the basis of profitability rather 
than human need... What Schumacher wanted was a people-centred economics 
because that would, in his view, enable environmental and human sustainability.

 It was a radical challenge which, like many of the ideas of the late 60s and 
early 70s (feminism is another example), were gradually adopted and distorted 
by the ongoing voracious expansion of consumer capitalism. ... a "small is 
beautiful" model of economic enterprise that put relationship, craft and 
environment at the heart of their way of working .. were later snaffled up by 
corporate giants. Small became cool but only as part of a branding strategy 
which masked the ongoing concentration of political and economic power. 
Gigantism has triumphed.
 The power of the global multinational and the financial institutions was 
beginning to become apparent in the early 70s, but it has grown exponentially 
since, unaccountable to national governments. Schumacher warned that a city's 
population should not rise above 500,000, but we are now living in an era of 
the megapolis and several cities around the world are heading towards 20m. 
Schumacher would be weeping over his herbal tea at the fate of his big idea.
 ... We yearn for economic systems within our control, within our comprehension 
and that once again provide space for human interaction – and yet we are 
constantly overwhelmed by finding ourselves trapped into vast global economic 
systems that are corrupting and corrupt. 
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