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I know this probably marks me for derision, but I can't stand to watch the 
original Star Trek episodes. While I *understand* its quasi-historical 
significance and recognize that some good scifi writers contributed to it, 
there is one thing about it that prevents me from watching more than about 30 
seconds of *any* episode -- B A D   A C T I N G    
There simply has never *been* a worse actor in the history of television (and, 
according to people who worked with him, more of an egomaniacal asshole) than 
William Shatner. Watching him do his thing is like fingernails on a blackboard 
to me. 

Interesting. I've been thinking the exact opposite! Talk about different eyes 
seeing different things. He isn't Oscar material for sure and sometimes he's a 
bit self-conscious maybe but I think he does what he does really well. Go 
figure. 
The rest of them are great, Spock in particular. But what I really like is the 
way it's aged. It's part super-stylish sci-fi and part old style Hollywood 
movie. Every time a woman walks on screen there's soft lighting and violins, 
it's hilarious. But mostly it's the stories I like and the way the writers get 
free reign to explore whatever aspect of the ship and crew they like. Time 
travel, parallel universes, interstellar bikini's. It's the show with 
everything!
OK, maybe I'll give it another try sometime. I'm basing the above rant on the 
last few times I watched episodes from it, and perhaps either it's mellowed 
since then or I have.  :-)  Spock was OK, and to their credit the writers did 
interject the occasional note of humor into the series, which at the time was 
near-heretical in mainstream scifi.  I'm not sure it would stand the test of 
time for me. 

But if you ever want to chat about a series that for me has SO stood the test 
of time, it's "Firefly." *That* is the kinda crew I want on *my* spaceship. 
Just on the level of sheer babe-age it blows all variants of "Star Trek" away. 
My memory for Star Trek Babes is probably faulty, but I mean, really...the only 
female characters I can remember in any of them who gave me a fanboy woodie 
were Beverly Crusher and Seven Of Nine, maybe the Borg Queen. Compare to 
Kaylee, Zoe, River, Nandi, YoSafBridge, and <genuflect> Inara. 'Nuff said.  :-) 
 :-)  :-)  



Lest anyone think that I'm being overly sexist and base by appreciating "the 
women of Firefly" as I do above, give a listen to this award acceptance speech 
from the guy who created these characters, and his perfect answer to the 
question, "Why do you write such strong female characters?" 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYaczoJMRhs

I've posted this before, but I'm reposting it in hopes anyone might be 
interested in the larger questions it brings up -- why *are* strong, 
independent, and powerful women characters so rare on TV and in movies? And who 
are some of your favorites?

  
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