---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
Not having been raised in Scorpion land, I never had the advantage of being raised on Dr. Who, so for a 10 year old kid who lusted after comics and science fiction, the original ST was like a bowl full of greasy hamburger to a starving dog. The only other sci fi stuff on at that time was Lost in Space which I also watched but even as a 10 year old, I knew it was pretty lame. I was one miserable kid if my parents couldn't get us home in time on a Saturday night for Dr Who. Wherever we were I'd get well stressed if I missed finding out how the Dr escaped from whatever cliff hanger he was in. That show helped defined my early life and gave me endless nightmares. Sometimes I wish I'd never seen the old shows again as my memories were rather more impressive in a lot of ways, funny how youthful wonderment can paper over the cracks in the scripts, and the sets. Some of them stood the test of time though, I wish the old writers were given a story each for the new series because none of those have impressed me even slightly. I liked lost in space when I was 5 because of the robot but other than that we had loads on TV, not just Star Trek but the BBC was always making little series for kids with doomy sci-fi themes. Then we had Blakes 7, known affectionately as the fifteen pound Star Trek. Good stories though whoch is what it's all about. Milton Berle show and Ed Sullivan, Gunsmoke and Gilligan's Island were the other types of offerings at that time. I remember being absolutely blown away every time the Star Trek theme music wafted forth from our old black and white tv we had at that time. Even my Old Man who generally didn't watch anything but westerns and war movies watched it with the rest of the family. It was aces! From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 5:01 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : I know this probably marks me for derision, but I can't stand to watch the original Star Trek episodes. While I *understand* its quasi-historical significance and recognize that some good scifi writers contributed to it, there is one thing about it that prevents me from watching more than about 30 seconds of *any* episode -- B A D A C T I N G There simply has never *been* a worse actor in the history of television (and, according to people who worked with him, more of an egomaniacal asshole) than William Shatner. Watching him do his thing is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. Interesting. I've been thinking the exact opposite! Talk about different eyes seeing different things. He isn't Oscar material for sure and sometimes he's a bit self-conscious maybe but I think he does what he does really well. Go figure. The rest of them are great, Spock in particular. But what I really like is the way it's aged. It's part super-stylish sci-fi and part old style Hollywood movie. Every time a woman walks on screen there's soft lighting and violins, it's hilarious. But mostly it's the stories I like and the way the writers get free reign to explore whatever aspect of the ship and crew they like. Time travel, parallel universes, interstellar bikini's. It's the show with everything! I'm sure nostalgia plays a part too. I have the completely opposite reaction to Star Trek The Next Generation. While it has some clunker actors (Jonathon Frakes, Levar Burton, and the planet-shatteringly-awful Wil Wheaton as Wesley Crusher), the presence of Patrick Stewart always made the series tolerable for me. Proper actor. Good stories. Wish I had the time to watch all of them but I'm sure they'll be repeated occasionally in future ;-) I don't think I paid much attention to any of the other series except to appreciate the intellectual qualities of Seven Of Nine. She could assimilate me any time. :-) Blimey. From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : I was more scared by Ron Howard's brother Clint as the real Balok! Was it really! Amazing. But yes, very creepy kid with that voice. Good episode though. My favourite Trek that I remember was "The city on the edge of forever" with Joan Collins, good time travel story with a typical paradox/dilemma. I particularly liked the machine that Spock builds out of a radio and a shaving mirror that can see two possible futures. LOL. Be interesting to see if I've remembered any of that correctly! I have watched all those Star Trek's a million times. When my daughter was younger I got her to watch a bunch of DS 9 which she liked - and then much to my surprise she really got into the Original Series too - but TNG is still her favorite. TNG grew on me slowly, I couldn't stand the Data character for ages but the movies put me right and I can happily watch the TV show now. Never saw DS9. Maybe they'll show that at some point on CBS. No sign of Texas Ranger in the schedules though. What did you think of Enterprise? I saw a few and there was a whiny English character that really got on my nerves. Not a good ambassador, I'd have slapped some sense into him. From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? Ah yes, the pizza creature. I am awed by your Trek knowledge. That one should be on soon actually, I look forward to it muchly. It was the one with Balok tonight. That creepy head really scared me when I was a kid! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : Not true - they ran across the Horta in one of the early episodes. (Devil in the Dark) From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Did climate change rub out ET? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote : Seeing the wide diversity of strange life forms just on Earth, why would we assume that an intelligent alien species, if it exists, would be 'humanoid?' Have you never seen Star Trek? They've yet to come across a single alien that wasn't humanoid. AND they can all speak English which is possibly another problem we'd have with communicating across interstellar distances, maybe the buzzing noise in my head is an alien communication that I can't interpret? The truth is out there....or not. Just based on the evidence we have, it would seem unlikely it would resemble us, except in the matter of intelligence required to figure out communication technology. In general relativity theory, light and gravity waves travel at the speed of light. Telepathy has never been scientifically demonstrated in any reliable way, and therefore were such a thing to exist, we do not know what speed it might travel. The nature of consciousness as a measurable, defined entity is also unknown as a constituent of everything. All we know is it is present when we have experiences, because its definition is tied to experience. It is the common value of all experience, but whether consciousness is a common value of objects when they are not experienced, is unknown. So far in our knowledge of the universe, there seem to be extraordinary barriers to both travel and communication over long distances. At the speed of light it takes about 8 minutes for NASA to communicate with its rovers on Mars. When we look into the night sky, looking at starts and galaxies, we are looking years, tens of years, hundreds of years, thousands of years, millions and billions of years into the past. We see nothing as it is now, only what we experience now which happened long ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote : There's the possibility that there are other humanoids within the Milky Way. However, they may not have the capability to transmit their greetings to us or the rest of the galaxy. Or, they may be transmitting through other mediums besides radio waves to communicate--such as through telepathy. If the universe is based on consciousness, then it is possible for sentient beings to communicate through consciousness instantaneously throughout the entire universe. Hmm, I'm a sentient being and I cannot communicate instantaneously with anyone - let alone across the universe - and I have never received telepathic communication either from my fellow humans or from aliens. And to the best of my knowledge neither has anybody else. From this we can conclude a few things. Either we humans cannot send or receive intergalactic telepathic messages for some reason, or there is no one sending them. The third option - and the one I will put money on - is that telepathy is impossible anyway and we therefore cannot use it as evidence either for or against alien life. Consciousness can be considered as the data bits that create the virtual reality that we live in, and that enable conscious beings to access the entire cosmic data bank--the unified field in TMO speak. These are not my ideas, but are from Tom Campbell, an author of a book that attempts to unify the ideas of philosophy and science, particularly physics. I've watched a few of his physics clips on youtube and he has a solid grasp of the subject - as you would hope given his background - the trouble is he goes leaping off into unfounded fantasies and wild extrapolations without offering any evidence other than that he thinks it's possible, and then only according to the way he interprets things. As I outline above there is a serious problem with the idea of transgalactic telepathy. He is also a standard bearer for remote viewing which is another mysterious claim that has no convincing evidence. Both things would be easy to prove so why doesn't he? Theorise then test. That's the way it works. I suppose you could say that channellers are receiving instantaneous messages from aliens but they lack all credibility. It all boils down to their being no action at a distance, if there was a way round it we would be able to exploit it here and wouldn't need to wait for aliens to talk to us. Do you agree? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : Another theory about the Fermi paradox; if we aren't alone in the universe where the hell is everybody? Do carbon dioxide-creating processes always destroy the biosphere they occur in? If You Can’t Stand the Heat, Get Out of the Universe | NCSE http://ncse.com/blog/2015/01/if-you-can-t-stand-heat-get-out-universe-0016143 http://ncse.com/blog/2015/01/if-you-can-t-stand-heat-get-out-universe-0016143 If You Can’t Stand the Heat, Get Out of the Universe | N... http://ncse.com/blog/2015/01/if-you-can-t-stand-heat-get-out-universe-0016143 The New York Times recently ran an interesting article by Adam Frank titled “Is Climate Disaster Inevitable?” This piece posed an intriguing answer to this puzz... View on ncse.com http://ncse.com/blog/2015/01/if-you-can-t-stand-heat-get-out-universe-0016143 Preview by Yahoo
