---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
I liked it so much I ditched my job and moved in. So yes, it's quite sweet that he can get carried away at his age and level of experience Did you tell your employers why you were quitting, to move into a TM facility? No but it didn't come as a surprise when I told them later. My Mum was worried that I was joining a cult and got some friends to get a plan together to break me out if it came to it. LOL. Shame it didn't come to that, I'd like to have seen them break in during purusha programme and bundle me out to an exit-counsellor. From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 3:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote : What cynics you two are! I found his article rather sweet. So did I. What I find interesting is the TM scientist getting all carried away and spiritual about what he must know is neurological wibble-wobble. If he knows that TM alters blood flow and serotonin levels in the brain then he knows that his experiences mean a big subjective nothing, at least no more than any other experience he has does. It's good to see someone keeping the faith. I like a good trip as much as the next guy, trouble is the amazingness of any hallucinatory experience wears off as you become used to it with repetition. Sad but true, it wears off. I had phenomenal TM experiences at first but not so much now.. We're not ultimately in opposition: some have to explore altered states of consciousness while others have to remain grounded, keep their critical faculties intact and point out possible objections. From that interplay we advance into the future. I'd like to see DOJ get critical with his own trip and see if he realises what it says about us in the same way I did or if he thinks he's about to suddenly emerge into a shangri-la of total bliss and unlimited wisdom. Because if that happens he'll be the first that it has happened to and he should know that. But we all kid ourselves at first, I liked it so much I ditched my job and moved in. So yes, it's quite sweet that he can get carried away at his age and level of experience Your cynicism may finally prove justified but at least he has a dream. Sadly, most dreamers turn out to be pipe dreamers. I'm hoping he turns out to be on to something. I hate the term cynic, it makes it seem like I don't think about things or haven't had these experiences myself or observed what happens to everyone else who reports them. Jaded with the TM myth is a more realistic label for me. I'm not killing the dream it's just that it always seems to pan out differently than we were promised. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : This should really be framed as an example of "What TM does to the mind." After decades of practice, it's caused a Ph.D. to use 1,626 words to describe a phenomenon that could easily have been described in two ("placebo effect") or at most four ("monkey see, monkey do"). I think his next study should be on the perils of unimportant people having been told for decades how important they are. From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Orme Johnson Experience Wow, he actually had an experience! Prolly makes it all worthwhile for him. I guess there must be a paper on neurological seratonin correlations with subjective experiences on the way? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/david.ormejohnson/posts/1592664690967881 Waves Below is one of my experiences... - David Orme-Johnson | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/david.ormejohnson/posts/1592664690967881 Waves Below is one of my experiences from the Invincible America Assembly from last October. First, some definitions of the terms that may be... View on www.facebook.com https://www.facebook.com/david.ormejohnson/posts/1592664690967881 Preview by Yahoo