I thought I'd made myself clear. In my well-considered opinion, I class anyone who believes in astrology in the same category as someone who believes that the moon is made of green cheese. What *variety* of astrology they believe in is therefore irrelevant. What they think of me is also irrelevant.
"Knowing shit about astrology" is the most irrelevant of all. Look, I get it. You believe in this stuff and you've devoted time and energy to study it, and thus you are more than a little attached to believing that you didn't waste your time. I think you did, and I'm not willing to waste mine. We're at an impasse. You will never convince me otherwise, except by producing a study conducted with near-perfect protocols and study design that proves otherwise, so strongly that *any* scientist would believe it. We (non-believers in astrology) have said this on this forum many times, inviting the believers in astrology here to perform a mini-verison of such a study and predict some concrete, non-falsifiable event in the future that can be easily verified as either having happened in the predicted (and short term) timeline, or disproved. Not one of you has ever done so. It is my contention that you have not done so because you can't. So the bottom line is that I think it's just FINE for you to believe in astrology, even though I think it's a crock of shit. You can't ever change my mind about this *EXCEPT* by producing the kind of definitive, scientific study I ask for. There it stands. Put up or shut up. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Maybe this is why things get so screwed up? You just made yourself a laughing stock to anyone who knows astrology with that statement. Show you know shit about astrology and proves my point. Another beer? :-D On 02/27/2015 09:06 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Exactly. It's the fact that he believes in astrology that puts him in the same camp as someone who believes that the moon is made of green cheese. What *type* of astrology he believes in is irrelevant. From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Maybe this is why things get so screwed up? Ahem, the person in question is the British politician who advocates astrology. BTW, I started reading about this several days ago. It sounds like he practices western astrology though not vedic. That's why I kidded Sal to go ask him. :-D On 02/27/2015 08:54 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Asking what kind of astrology a person practices is like asking someone who believes that the moon is made of green cheese what kind of knife astronauts should use to slice themselves off a chunk of moon to serve for dinner. :-) From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> He's right about one thing: most of the astrology critics know shit about astrology. What kind of astrology does he follow: vedic (sidereal) or western? Why don't you go ask him. On 02/27/2015 12:21 AM, salyavin808 wrote: It seems that Britain's ruling class have a secret penchant for asking the stars for advice and some even believe it's the missing link in healthcare. Those stupid scientists just don't understand it apparently. My favourite quote here is that astrology may not stand up to scrutiny but is based on thousands of years of observations. But majority of those were observing the wrong number of planets.... Also interesting is the claim that criticism of astrology is racism! Sounds like a desperate gambit to me. This is the march of the idiocracy. We'll be back in the stone age before we know it. I know what would solve crisis in the NHS, says Tory MP: astrology - Telegraph | | | | | | I know what would solve crisis in the NHS, says Tory MP:... 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