---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
Self obsessed plus making money for most of them - I'll have to go back and pick out a couple of doozies to suggest - there was one TM burnout in particular who later after he left Marshy took up with Sai Baba. He comes across as one weird rascal. Sounds like fun. I'm wondering though if this is the sort of thing I would have been interested in when I was a newbie TMer. I remember being excited about meeting advanced long term TMers when I went on my first course. What would they be like I wondered, would they be floating? have light emanating from their skin? talking only pure radiant wisdom? I had no idea. I admit to being nervous that my unevolved state would be too obvious. As it was I needn't have worried obviously, it was like One flew over the cuckoos nest crossed with the Addam's family. A lot of people who had either done too much or not enough and we'll never know which. There were a few cool people who clearly had something but certainly not what I was expecting and maybe that's just as well... Still drank it up though, so maybe BATGAP is fulfilling a function for people on the path who want to see a sign that they aren't just wasting their time? A sign that it's eventually going to have been worth it. Or not... From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Well, well, well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : the more crazies he has the happier he is. Are you kidding? Most of the crazies are over on BATGAP. Have you ever watched any of those interviews? Not all of them are whacked out mind you. Some like Francis Bennett are really enjoyable to watch and listen to. But a good many of these people are around the bend, especially some of the old TM burnouts. A lot of the others are just setting themselves up to be the next Marshy or Adyashanti. I've started to watch a few but it doesn't interest me for some reason. It seems like the sort of wild speculation about experiences that I just don't get off on. I'm happy if they are enjoying life but it's all a bit self obsessed isn't it? From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Well, well, well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote : Negativity or reality? And what's wrong with TV (and movie) reviews? Lots of folks here watch TV. Are they supposed to be spending their evenings reading the Gita? One man's negativity is another's constructive quest for understanding, or something - I'm too tired to get a good line together.... And I'm all for TV and movie reviews, too much bible talk gets tedious. It's funny though, the only really negative people here are Stevie Wonder and the Lone Star Troll. It's bizarre that anyone would spend so much energy just going "Yah Boo" all day. The fascinating thing from my point of view is that both of these guys -- Steve Sundur and Richard Williams -- are so far gone into their cult psychosis that they actually don't *know* that the only thing they're capable of doing any more is stalking people they've taken a dislike to. One really has to wonder what *happened* to them to make them this un-self-aware. The only valid emotion one can feel about either of them is pity. The real casualty in all of this, however, is Rick. I admit to having lost all respect for him for reversing his previous sane decision and allowing Richard Williams to return to FFL. He *clearly* has never even bothered to read anything Richard posts. While I understand, what that means is that Rick *clearly* doesn't CARE what this pyschopath has done to the forum he founded. That's very sad. Yes, Rick clearly has no interest in what goes on here any more and only ever posts links to his BATGAP stuff. Maybe he uses this place as a counterpoint to it - FFL the dark side of spirituality - and the more crazies he has the happier he is. It's hard to believe that Willytex is so unaware of how he comes across, maybe he's beyond caring too and just wants to spread his misery around. I never open their posts any more, life's too short, but the one useful function the pair of them have is that any casual passing observer is going to think hard about the impact of long term meditation practise.
