Mean? P'raps. Aggressive, no. Had I offered to chase him down and force him to kiss my ass, then yes that would have been agressive.
From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Mind of the Meditator" In practicality, That an availability is 'limited'through re-certified teachers, MJ in writing his usual mean andaggressive negativity here raises a valid point within it in offeringthese excerpts from the J. Am. Heart Association memo. Limited availability is one thing, but further I also run in to acorollary fact that a general public also does not necessarily like going in tothe Peace Palaces for learning TM. Possibly this is what the memo isalso driving at. ..Way too much carry-on baggage with TM. >From the J.AmHeart Association memo: “..TMwas not invented to lower BP. We >acknowledge that meditationtechniques may offer numerous benefits to people. >Nevertheless, webelieve that existing limitations need to be addressed >beforerevisiting a higher class of recommendation concerning TM..” Evidently contact with the tru-believer re-certified side of themovement is too obviously odd, setting off cult-radar 'warnings' inmany who may go near. This is a cultural thing. Though culturallymodified the David Lynch Foundation side of TM is moreextra-territorial or secular to the re-cert side or strict movementcertified facilities that present a whole glossy panoply of TM Vedicthings. The whole vedic thing evidently seems too much cult-like Scientologytoday as cult. That can evidently can be worked with as with the good work of the DLF.-Buck, a transcendent meditator in Fairfield, Iowa ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : Which shows that the TM leaders and their medical shills like that jack-ass Bob Schneider are greedy for nothing less than a world wide endorsement of TM as the sovereign remedy to cure all society's ills and all man's diseases. And a few other excerpts from the letter: "About practicality, there is a marked difference between providing atreatment in a randomized controlled trial and referringunselected patients with hypertension for TMtraining in clinical practice. TM is also more expensive than otherapproaches($1500), and access to certified training may bemore limited. For example, the Cleveland area has only 2 listed sitescoveringa population of ≈2 million people We objectively and fairlypresented the published data about the lowering of BP from TM. Itsefficacy was indeed shown tobe on par with some other alternative approacheswhen cross-comparing summary meta-analyses results (although few directcomparisonsare available). We clearly stated that mostapproaches have modest efficacy (not just TM), and that patientsrequiring >10mm Hg reductions should be monitored closely. TM was notinvented to lower BP. We acknowledge that meditation techniques mayoffer numerous benefits to people. Nevertheless,we believe that existing limitations need to beaddressed before revisiting a higher class of recommendation concerningTMfor the sole purposes of managing high BP" Had I been the doctor replying to Greedy Bob's request to mark TM as being the be all and end all of life, I would have concluded the letter by saying "Bob Schneider can kiss my ass, not on the left side and not on the right side, but right down the middle." From: "LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Mind of the Meditator" In case you hadn't noticed, the lead author of the American Heart Association report that said that TM was (and still is two years later, even after revisions) the only form of meditation that the AHA says can be recommended by doctors for the treatment of hypertension is now pretty good friends with Robert Schneider, has appeared on the same stage with him, and has announced that he is doing his own study on TM and hypertension. He's also recently published an article discussing when to recommend alternative therapies for hypertension. When and How to Recommend "Alternative Approaches" in the Management of High Blood Pressure. | | | | When and How to Recommend "Alternative Approaches" in the Management of High Blood ... 1. Am J Med. 2015 Jan 30. pii: S0002-9343(15)00079-0. doi:10.1016/j.amjmed.2014.12.029. [Epub ahead of print] | | | View on www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov | Preview by Yahoo | | | When discussing TM research in a formal response to Robert Schneider's request for an upgrade to the AHA's evaluation of TM, he politely refused but said: We do agree that TM is unique in the robustness and quality of evidence among meditation techniques for BP-lowering http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/62/6/e43.full L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : Let's not forget its power as advertising. Everyone knows science carries weight so being able to say you have 4000 studies published in 750 peer reviewed journals is a big help with the apparent credibility. No matter how well or not it stands up, and a lot of it is crap. Some of the newer stuff is better but they make unreasonable claims for it and even had to be told to stop using some results from the AMA because they simply weren't true. They totally blew it when they tried to stop non-accredited TM teachers from using the same research in their literature though. 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