I really could care less. He may very well have had character flaws, which I have no doubt,leftist would exaggerate and or exploit to further their *cause*. Do you know of any human that doesn't have character flaws? Moses stuttered, had a temper and was a murderer,Washington and Jefferson were slave owners. Jefferson even fathered children with his slaves. Lincoln *raped* the United States Constitution. William Jefferson Clinton was, and still is, a philanderer, pervert,rapist and molester. ,Martin Luther King was known for his philandering as well and he was a minister! Great people are recognized for the great things they do and the impact they have on others lives. Kyle was highly skilled in his profession and saved a lot of US military lives using those skills. If he felt compelled to harden his heart against potential targets, I'll cut him some slack. I'm just wondering if any of Kyles critiques have done anything useful in their lives as they sit in judgment on his.
From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre then educate yourself and read his book as I have From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre I would comment but I have no idea of the context in which it was said nor would I trust you to provide the correct context. From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Kyle said in his book he didn't give a fuck about any of the Iraqis and that included men, women and children. Make a patriotic platitude out of that. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre BTW, the *brown people* comment reminds me of when Bevan tried to explain Obama Ben Laden's justification for the 9/11 attacks was because the US was *contaminating* Saudi soil with a US military presence in Saudi Arabia. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Six Academy Award nominations, including Best Picture, Best Leading Actor, Best Adapted Screenplay. Six Academy nominations are sufficient accolades for a first class film. US man in uniform good, brown people bad, proves my point about liberal mindset and why they hate the movie. The icing on the cake was that the *brown* people were Islamic terrorists. Now, to be true to script Michael, you're supposed to come back and say they weren't *terrorists*, they were *freedom* fighters and we were killing them to take their oil. From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Sure because of the cult "US man in uniform good, brown people bad" mentality. The box office numbers of films like Age of Ultron prove that a garbage movie can make lots of money. Titanic is another good example. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre 90.2 million dollars opening weekend. I guess somebody liked it. From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Couldn't disagree more. All the politics and war this and that aside, just considering the movie as a movie, the film is very poorly made. The first 30 minutes or so of back story is trite, formulaic and boringly predictable. From the point at which the protagonist, Chris Kyle is shown beginning his Iraq tour the movie devolves into a repetitive cycle of fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, go back to Iraq, fight, kill, go home, fight with wife, and so on. The first time I saw the two evil doers, the antagonists of the film, I knew they and the situations the filmmakers were showing were made up bullshit. Subsequent research into the differences between Kyle's book and the film confirmed that. Far from the film being great and it not being PC to say so, the film makes a joke out of the Iraq war and turns the soldiers into caricatures of the real men and women who served and serve there. The reason the film is so popular is the kind of cult mentality we have often discussed here on FFL, where a point of view is so obsessively adhered to one cannot think or perceive reality clearly. In this case the point of view is that all US soldiers are good and whatever they do makes them heroes, and that the Iraqis are all evil (which is pretty much what Kyle himself believed - read his book and you'll see.) This is absurd. I have known more than a few men and women who have served in both the 1st Gulf war and the current conflict. What people who think this film is fine fail to recognize is that a soldier can do their job in combat, even become heroic at times and still be an ass or even a criminal in their day to day life. How do you think so many thousands of sexual assaults occur in the military, especially in war zones every year? Combat soldier by day, rapist by night. It happens all too frequently. About 20,000 cases a year are actually reported and one estimate showed that only one in five assaults get reported. Put that together and you have about 100,000 cases of sexual assault occurring in the military every year! And this is being done by heroes??? I knew of one instance here in SC - the man, Army officer literally died a hero, jumping on the grenade to save his buddies scenario and man was he ever praised and lionized all over the place with the Governor herself, and many state dignitaries praising this guy to high heaven in any number of memorial services. I have known his widow since she was born, and I know that her husband before his death had been cheating on her. She found out and asked him to stop and start being a husband and a father to their 3 year old and 5 year old. He refused and she began divorce proceedings. Part of her angst was over the fact that while in Iraq, he was sending money that should have gone to her and their kids to pay the mortgage to his girlfriend here so she could buy a new truck. After he was killed his wife discovered that after his last leave when she told him to shape up or she would divorce him, not only did he stop sending her any money at all, he took her name off his life insurance policy and put his mother's name on it. She was a real honey too. The mother came up to the widow at the freaking memorial service and told her to her face in front of others that she (the mother) would see to it that she (the wife) would not collect a penny in his military benefits. Hero on the battlefield, ass in real life. Many of the scenes in the movie were made up, fictional including the butcher character and mustafa, the scene where Kyle's brother was complaining on the tarmac and especially the scenes where Kyle was shown getting tired and uncomfortable with what he was doing. That was complete bullshit. Read his book. He states without question that he loved killing and loved the war. He not only loved it, he said it was fun more than once in the book. Anyone who thinks that war and killing is fun is mentally unbalanced. The fact that he himself was killed by another Iraq war vet is one of the most telling things about his life and the movie barely mentions. As one reviewer put it, they made a movie about a killing machine with a heart of gold. Which is bs too. If you read anything about the real Kyle it is obvious that he was a self centered braggart and liar. The Jesse Ventura incident - bs. The story of himself and two other SEALS killing 30 looters in New Orleans from atop the Superdome - bs. And his tale of killing two carjackers and the cops turning him loose when they realized who he was - total bs. If he had to fabricate such stories to make himself look good, how accurate can his war record be? And before you go to squalling about it, the kill record of the snipers rely a good deal on the testimony of the snipers themselves. And none of the records are considered official by the army. its just a bragging rights thing. If you read the book, you will find some of the most telling aspects of Kyle's mentality revolve around him competing with other US snipers to see who would rack up the highest body count. When one of his "competitors" gets close to surpassing his record, he talks about how so many more insurgents suddenly began to appear in front of his scope, heavily implying that he went out and killed whoever he had to to keep up his record. The truth is generally much more sordid than the Clint Eastwoods of the world make it seem in their films and I guess all his years of TM have finally caught up with him, cause his latest film is pitiful on all levels. From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Yeah, I watched it last night... again. It's a great film but it isn't chic(sheik) or PC to admit it. Actually, it's fashionable among libs to ridicule it. Got to get that Muslim vote! Of course American Muslims hate it because they say it's anti-Muslim. Anti-Muslim because it shows the greatest American sniper killing Terrorists( who happen to be Muslims) in order to prevent the deaths of Marines taking Fallujah and Sadr City in order to stabilize Iraq. I guess they wanted him to talk the terrorists out of their attacks. Hmmm... all that effort and all those lives and limbs for nothing. American Sniper got good reviews in Baghdad with cheers for each kill from many in the audience. However, it had to be closed down the first week due to terroristic threats. From: "Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Eastwood Rise from the Sepulchre Anyone see Dinosaur TM'er Clint's latest film? I watched American Sniper last night and was duly unimpressed. 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