--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thats another facet of the co-dependent > > bound/not-bound cycle story. > > When one becomes liberated, they become superior. > > Have you actually experienced that with "liberated" > people? Superiority/arrogance is the stink of an ego, > not of liberated consciousness.
Well for example, Jim is claiming liberation -- I take him at his word -- yet he is "an elephant" barely even able to talk to "ants" like me. That is one experience. Similar ones come to mind. You may making a distinction between classes of "liberated" and Jim and others are not in the class you are referring to. I have experienced many people with and without the stink of an ego. Are all of the latter liberated? All the former bound? > > I > > guess thats the > > difference between the first category ("I have no > > awareness of > > boundaries") and the third stage of seekerdom "I > > have no awareness of > > boundaries, EVER". > > > > I observe people in the third stage, per their own > > story (I am not > > acknowleging any reality of a third stage or any > > stages), tend to > > express a sense of superiority. And reasonably so > > per their story. > > "Most are in ignorance and boundaries, I am not, I > > am liberated, I am > > the elephant, they are the ants." > > Really? Authentically liberated people can't act that > way because it would be a self-evident absurdity to > talk about being superior to someone else. How can > nothing be better or worse than something? Seems reasonable to me. > Maybe > you've been talking to some mood-makers who have good > experiences and also some self-esteem issues! Maybe. See above. And to jump a few notches, do you think MMY has some self-esteem issues? > > > But what if its > > only a story. What > > if one never bought into ignorance and boundaries in > > the first place? > > I think that's a great non-story to buy into! Thats my non-story and my non-I is not sticking to IT. > > > > Then there is no seeking, no seeker, no teacher for > > the seeker, no > > seeker for the teacher, no boundaries to realize > > were never there, no > > ignorance to realize was never there. No > > co-depenedency, no > > superiority, no stories. > Sounds like a powerful insight of liberation to me. > First there's a game, then there's a winner of the > game, then it is realized that there wasn't a game at > all and therefore there are no winners or losers. Only > people who walk around claiming to be "not" when they > "is". Oh joy, do I get a crown? :) Maybe one to sit on so when I strike a "liberated pose" it hurts my liberated ass like crazy. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> AIDS in India: A "lurking bomb." Click and help stop AIDS now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpTY2A/lzNLAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/