Always love reading posts by Duveyoung. And I hope the three lawsuits you won were agin the TMO!! Ha ha! (Or at least some stuck up gov'nors) From: Duveyoung <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 1:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Synthesizing a Vedic Psychiatry When is someone going to get that I'm fucking having funzies here with my creativity that often features the anger tone? Geeeze. If I'm vociferous, so the fuck what?
And it was an ad hominem, because the issue was "Is Edg a quality thinker?" -- unexpressed, yes, but, no, IT WAS EXPRESSED. And to deny this when everyone here knows that Steve was trying to elbow my ribs is ANOTHER ACT OF AGGRESSION AGAINST ME. Hee hee, fucking hee......I loves me da capital letters. Can I get angry in a nanosecond? OF FUCKING COURSE I CAN. Can't you? Can I have love flowing instantly? OF FUCKING COURSE I CAN. Can't you? Have I lived a mostly normal life? OF FUCKING COURSE I DID. Didn't you? I have been every kind of person -- shitheel, joker, leader, teacher, priest, lover, devotee, businessman, sportsman, psychologist, father, son, brother, husband, uncle, cousin, loser, winner. Got me tons of success and tons of failure. OF COURSE I HAVE HAD EVERY EMOTION A THOUSAND TIMES AND CAN RECALL OR RE-INSTITUTE THOSE WORKINGS OF MY NERVOUS SYSTEM. I'm having five thoughts per second -- I can cherry pick any emotion I want and by attending it, amplifying it into a full flown mental event with tons of processing. CAN'T YOU? Or rather, DON'T YOU SEE THAT YOU DO THIS TOO? If you haven't been all roles of life and gotten really muddified, shame on you for wasting a life. Am I angry right now as I type this? NOOOOOOO! THIS IS FUN ! I'm writing! I'm putting words together "just so." If I was angry, you'd not know it until the boom was lowered -- would not want to give you advanced warning...that I was just now stepping up onto your porch....with a blunt instrument.....hee hee....see?....I just put an onerous image into your mind......writers get away with this shit. And, me?, angry at the pissants here when I have had REAL ENEMIES WHO DID MASSIVE DAMAGE TO ME IN EVERY WAY? Get real -- no one here is worth my anger. And by the way, I have never taken revenge on anyone in the real world.....though I did win three lawsuits.....I mostly mean punching someone in the nose -- haven't been in a fist fight since I was 13 years old. Not saying that Willy's nose wouldn't be bloodied if I was stuck in an elevator with him, but God has protected me by not putting me in said circumstances. Lucky me, eh? The real issue that I was addressing with satire is that Steve's trolling is too subtle for the likes of Doug to moderate. Doug can't nail Steve for having an evil intent, because it would require a massive trial and gathering of facts -- impossible. THAT WAS MY POINT. Doug is going to fail at moderation, because everyone would fail at it. And how much more does it take for Doug to declare someone a misfit troll out to make someone feel bad? Does it really have to be such a large deal like someone asserting a lie that amounts to legal libel before Doug will ban someone? It's obvious that there's many here who LOVE TO DIG AT SOMEONE and get them riled up, and yet, Doug has not addressed anyone's MANY sins since he "took over here." See? That's proof about how hard it is to pull it off -- Doug's probably regretting this, heh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote : Steve did not commit an ad hominem All he said was: 1. Doug was a moderator and not responsible for vetting all content (that would be rather difficult because Doug has to go outside and work). This is basically a factual statement. 2. He said Doug was not a therapist, which is also probably a factual statement. Then he expressed an opinion that you had personal issues with anger. This may or may not be true. But his short post was not concerned with any argument you made supporting some position, so it is not an ad hominem. Ad hominem refers to logical argumentation as was discussed in post #416814. With out supporting arguments an opinion is just that, a surmise. Based on your response, I think Steve's surmise has some merit, but that is still an opinion. Nobody knows exactly what a person's inner emotional state is, but people do make judgements based on the perceived outer behaviour of a person, gestures, what they say, how they say or write. Your response to Steve appears to be what is called a diatribe which is defined (courtesy of google.com): A forceful and bitter verbal attack against someone or something. synonyms: tirade, harangue, onslaught, attack, polemic, denunciation, broadside, fulmination, condemnation, censure, criticism. Now that sounds like someone who is angry, that anger directed at Steve in this case. This pretty much looks like a personal attack, whereas Steve, it seemed to me (opinion), was just making a suggestion. If any one has violated the guidelines here in this exchange, you have. I have to admit though, it is very entertaining. People to not require a Ph.D. to determine whether they think someone is angry or unbalanced, though eventually other factors may intervene for that someone, such as law enforcement officers or medical professionals working in the area of mental health. If I were to comment on 'your case', I would have the opinion you have low self esteem, that you blow up some simple comments into a vast conspiracy against your person. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : Steve, You are labeling me as someone with stored up anger....."to whatever degree"....and for a large part of my adult life. This is an ad hominem -- in a public forum. How so? Quite simply I have not reported (here at FFL or elsewhere online) my inner emotional states throughout my life with any detail such that a, what?, couch psychiatrist?, can insinuate about my past or present or future emotional states.....let alone present a logical assembly of my posts that would demonstrate to a scientific prognosticator enough information for that "decider" to say, "Oh, yeah, that kind of mind, piss on it, that anger just clouds his judgment and it's just not worth dealing with this fuckwad." Yet this is exactly the intent of your post. You with no credentials are asserting something untrue about me. This is a foul accusation about me. I protest to Doug. Doug? There are not enough facts in evidence that I am someone with stored up anger -- which is merely code for "might blow at any minute." My online history is checkered with every manner of emotionalism, because I'm a writer and give myself permission to be silly, satirical, rude, outrageous, poetic, raw, real, fake OR WHATEVER. To interpret who I am from my online posts would require a PhD jury to authenticate some candidate's findings. AS FUCKING IF. This is an outrageous smear job by any decent minded regard. Aaaaaaaaand, further, the question: "Does that make sense?" is clearly another attempt to present the concept "Edg is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking stupid, you have to treat him like child, and always double check what's going on in that little noggin' of his." It is this sort of tactic that everyone here understands for what it is: plain old trolling -- with a smirk that assumes there's denial ability to shield all protests. "What? I never meant that. Why how dare you accuse me of having such a low intent." -- like that. Like fucking that. That's the tactic -- to me, it's Gestapol shit. Now, in the past, I would enter into a delightful tirade of withering statements about you, personally, that would leave stains on your soul, but DOUG IS WATCHING, so I won't. But you have violated the intent and spirit of the guidelines -- IN MY OPINION, and I call for Doug to arbitrate this issue and give us the benefit of his wisdom -- here in the public forum where the "act" occurred. Let's see if you have, indeed, befouled our pristine and new intent to be civil here, or if I'm mistaken and, truly, everyone thinks I'm way over the top in my interpretation of your below text. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : He's a moderator Edg, not responsible for vetting all the content that passes through here in terms of its future efficacy. Or present efficacy for that matter. Nor is he a therapist to help you process whatever anger you have stored up from what appears to be a large part of your adult life participating in this movement. 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