---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote :
Xeno, A few weeks ago, I posted an article about the new developments in physics discussed at a conference in Puerto Rico. Apparently, some physicists are raising the issue that information is more fundamental than matter and energy. That means Hawking, Krauss and Dawkins are wrong in their interpretation of the Big Bang. Information is certainly important. But how can it be structured without space-time, energy-matter? Without matter there is no way to encode information, without energy, no way to transmit it Information can be interpreted as consciousness that springs forth from the unified field. As such, this information is the observer, the process of observing, and the observed. This is the dynamic relationship that creates the infinite universes which includes our own. Consciousness that springs forth requires a nervous system, and that is matter and energy. If we assume the universe is unified, all these things are together as one anyway so there is no point in trying to get rid of one and the same thing to make the idea sound more 'spiritual'. The physical universe and 'spirit' are one and the same, that is what unification means, so it is not necessary to eliminate or redefine levels of existence. Because they are unified, it is no longer necessary to postulate emergence because it is not a sequence of events that is unfolding; the idea of creator or a beginning only comes into play if you have a world that is dis-unified. Take Yoga Vasistha for example on this point: Vasistha: 'But all this talk about who created this world and how it was created is intended only for the purpose of composing scriptures and expounding them: it is not based on truth. Modifications arising in the infinite consciousness or organisation of the cosmic being, do not really take place in the Lord, though they appear to do so. There is naught but the infinite consciousness, even in imagination! To think of that being the creator and the universe as the created, is absurd: when one lamp is kindled from another, there is no creator-creature relationship between them—fire is one. Creation is just a word, it has no corresponding substantial reality.' As a product of the unified field, our universe is a reflection of its creator. Our earth and everything in it are part of this universe and the quantum wave function which made this all happen. MMY stated that this wave function can be accessed while in transcendental consciousness or samadhi. I doubt this is true, but because you are saying it is a quantum mechanical function, then there are physical qualities that could be measured to check out the idea. You just have to formulate the meditation theory in a way that it predicts certain quantum mechanical events, and design the experiment to see if that happens. If it does not, the theory is wrong. Dr. John Hagelin stated in one of internet videos that the expansion of the universe is powered by dark energy, the emptiness of space, i.e. the unified field itself. We really do not seem to know what dark energy is or how and why it is there, if it is there. Some scientists feel there are other explanations for the observations for which dark energy and matter are hypothesised. Hagelin is of course no longer really a physicist that communicates with his physicist peers. He doesn't write papers or formulate anything scientifically any more. Other scientists, like Dr. Leonard Susskind, are proposing that the beginning and end of the universe can be compared to information stored in a hologram which can be expressed in scientific formulas. But this idea lacks the lively intelligence of the information expressed in MMY's samhita of the Rishi-Devata-Chandas. Without formulating these theories (hologram or samhita) in a way that generates parameters that can be physically measured, there is no way to tell the difference between them. You might as well say the universe came from a chicken sandwich (a very special sort of chicken sandwich of course). You may disagree with this idea from MMY, but the new concept, that information is more fundamental than matter and energy, is somewhat similar to the thoughts that MMY formulated many years ago. With a unified system, information, matter and energy will appear to emerge simultaneously. Saying one is more fundamental than the other is a post hoc explanation mapped onto the world to explain how it appears when viewed not as being but as becoming. That means the attention is narrowed so experience is fragmented and the world then appears in pieces that seem to move in relation to one another and the mind must try to figure out how they are related. Take the formula for general relativity. The equation shows how the whole system stands as a whole, but if you plug a particular value into one of the values in the equation, it will show you how the whole system will look at that particular moment; another value, how the whole system will appear at another moment; the equation itself contains all the moments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <anartaxius@...> wrote : From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Why Does Time Exist? Sean Carroll, a physicist, discusses the various aspects of time but does not cover the various theories of the Big Bang. He did not talk about the unified field or the quantum wave function which was the source of the Big Bang. IMO, the fact that the universe is expanding to eternity means that the universe came out of eternity, through the quantum wave function. In the Big Bang theory, if space were negatively curved, the universe would expand, as a measure of time, eternally, but that does not say anything about where it came from or what it came from, or in fact if it came at all. The beginning, as a function of quantum mechanical ideas might be a quantum fluctuation, but did any quantum field exist before the universe began. But before it began, or even at the beginning there would be no quantum wave function, which requires there be particles, but no particles exist in that highly compressed state at the Big Bang. A wave function in quantum mechanics describes the quantum state of an isolated system of one or more particles. Exactly what does 'coming out of eternity' mean in your scenario. Is the eternity the universe comes out of time based? Because without space-time, there is no time. Whereas the universe expanding to eternity takes, in terms of time, forever, and that is time-based. Sean Carroll: Why Does Time Exist? http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=415003106 http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=415003106 Sean Carroll: Why Does Time Exist? http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=415003106 Cosmologist Sean Carroll tackles a deceptively simple question: Why does time exist at all? The potential answers point to a surprising view of the nature o... View on www.npr.org http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=415003106 Preview by Yahoo
