Indians don't eat "three squares" a day. They eat more like Europeans
with one big lunch and two smaller meals. Some of the yogis only eat
once a day or it interferes with their sadhana. After all these
techniques slow ... you ... down.
Americans need to adopt that too but it would be heresy to our
industrial agricultural complex. Remember America is all about money.
That's what we worship.
Also yogis don't like added responsibilities. Probably many of them
would flee the area if a institution wanted them as their leader.
Again, it interferes with sadhana.
On 07/04/2015 09:44 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
As long as he had a dry cave to sleep in, why would he worry about his
housing,
Me: Throw pillows. If you look at the pictures it is all about the
color coordinated throw pillows.
M: given the fact that he had that bag was it, the one that GD could
reach into and pull out any food or other items he wanted?
Me: Tee hee. Swami Rama said that when he met him he was living on
chick pea sprouts and salt.
M:
Reckon what happened to that bag,
Me: It ended up in Never Never Land with Peter Pan
M: I doubt Marshy had it, otherwise he wouldn't have needed to defraud
people to get money.
Me: It is interesting that Maharishi was able to sell us on the idea
of a technique bringing us to a state of mind that he himself did not
credit with producing his own special state of mind. That is why I
could relate best to full time people when I was in the movement. We
were imaging (accompanied by Maharishi's pitch) that we were living as
closely to what he had done as we could. I believed in the techniques,
but not as much as I believed in his more subtle message of how he had
gained his state of mind through serving the master.
I almost asked him to clarify this relationship in India but in
retrospect am glad I had not. This was supposed to be an implied
teaching, and me asking him to be more explicit in a large group with
mixed commitments would have brought down some "corrections to my
thinking."
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*From:* "curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, July 4, 2015 10:11 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
Re "Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to
engage in a role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is
never addressed by the biographies but is glossed over with pious
platitudes.":
Me:
Many Homeless people accept help to live inside when they reach the
age where it is too hard to continue to camp on public land which is
what Guru Dev was doing when they asked him. I never heard about any
trickery. He accepted once, then reneged and ran away for a while.
Then they convinced him to come live inside. Quite a posh homeless
shelter.
It was probably hard for an old guy to make such a big change. But the
3 hots and a cot lifestyle has its appeal for a man of a certain age.
Even if it comes with people waving camphor and incense in your face
occasionally.
Reading his words about religion reminds me of other fundamentalist
religious people who like to think and talk about God all the time. I
gotta figure it was because of a lack of commitment to mastering the
guitar.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote :
Re "Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to
engage in a role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is
never addressed by the biographies but is glossed over with pious
platitudes.":
Didn't MMY say that Guru Dev was tricked into accepting the position?
Or am I imagining that I heard that story?! If so, I must be going senile.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
that is a damn good question - I appreciate you posting this. I am
gonna get this book and see what it does have to say, esp. now with
this in mind.
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*From:* "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of TM
Anyone read this stuff?
These types of biographies contain lots of valuable information.
However, all of them tend to be hagiographies written by Western
psychophantic householders. Consequently none of them reflect the
ACTUAL view of sannyasa held by someone like swami Brahmananda
Saraswati. He was not just a sannyasin, but rather a Danda-Sannyasin,
which is a specific category of stict renunciation. Danda-Sannyasins
have no concern with the world at all. Rather, they take care of
simple bodily needs and use their remaining life moments to engage in
nididhyasana (contemplation). This means examination of the apparent
difference between the Awareness-Self and experience itself. Between
Self and Other. Between Brahman and appearances.
It also means contemplating the Upanishad declarations that Brahman is
reality itself (satyam), Awareness itself (jnanam), limitlessness
itself (anantam) and that this apparent world is that very Brahman
itself.
Why did Swa. Brahmananda abandon this realization-practice to engage
in a role-playing position as a kingly Shankaracharya. This is never
addressed by the biographies but is glossed over with pious platitudes.
PS: Don't bother replying with "He loved us so much he wanted to save
us from ourselves" christian theologizing B.S. Also leave off the "He
was a great bodhisattva" Buddhist B.S. These types of answers will
only demonstrate lack of understanding the question.
