One example, (of the eastern approach) which doesn't tell much, but when we were expecting, and were "late", we used an acupressure point near the big toe, (I think), and it did seem to trigger the onset of contractions.
Then, of course, contractions stopped, and she had to walk around the inside of the hospital for about three miles to get things going again. (which they did) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : Thanks for your reply. Fortunately I don't seem to have had any bad side effects with regards to my knees from sitting in the full lotus. But, my area of interest would be the effect of sitting in the full lotus has on the inner physiology, i.e. nerves. Yes, I have read in books that the full lotus has the effect of purifying the "nadis" (as they are referred to), and my experience, (subjective as it is), was that it did have beneficial effect on my health, and also my inner experience. I cannot quantify that, but that is what I felt, (or thought I felt) strongly, at the time But, I think you point out a big difference between western science and eastern science, (if you want to call it science). The eastern understanding of our body has developed over hundreds or thousands of years, and I do find much of it valid based on my own experiences. The western approach, appears to me at least, rather superficial, at least in this instance, being focused on ligaments etc. Then again, the Eastern approach to health was probably never too big on rigorous exercise, anyway. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote : My experience sitting in the full lotus for an extended period (30 minutes or so), was that it had a remarkable effect on my physiology. But I happened to get a little frostbite on my heel late in the game, and it made sitting in that posture uncomfortable, so I had to give it up. It is one of those areas where I feel western science will find some striking results, if and when it decides to take a closer look. Me: The science of sports medicine has looked into it and their conclusion is that the lotus posture overextends ligaments in the knee which has a devastating affect on knee joint stability. This is made worse by our chair sitting that tightens up our hip flexors. When the hip and knee fight the hip wins. People who sit on the ground a lot and don't value exercise don't notice as much. But as an active skier you might want to look into it before you work on destabilizing that joint too much. Ligament stretching is a common complaint from sports medicine concerning some yoga postures. Sports medicine has revolutionized stretching exercises even in the last two decades. We know so much more about how joints work from all those years replacing them and the millions thrown toward getting professional athletes back on the field. I am a far cry from being able to assume that position now. It is still on my bucket list, for some reason though. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <s3raphita@...> wrote : Re "Would like to try meditating there though - nice and quiet when you get to an isolated spot.": I take it you can do the full lotus posture. I never got beyond the sitting-in-a-chair stage. Do you have to be able to do the cross-legged bit to qualify as a teacher of TM? No need to be able to do lotus to be a TM teacher. Very few people can manage it actually. I did for a while but like most westerners I was too keen to get into it and it wasn't easy enough so I ended up with severe knee pain. I know a few people who are permanently damaged by it with weak knees. Seems like there isn't much point but it does improve the quality of the TM a lot. I was amazed at the difference and wanted to do my whole TMSP in full lotus but they say you need to have been doing it for a decade before you can sit still like that. I see there's a book showing how to master the position. Re the fall-out from the Greek fiasco: I'd wager serious money that it ends up with the Fed having to supply lines of credit to Europe! Another Marshall Plan and we'll see if Europe's politicians can get it right this time around . . . I think it's going to outlast the siege of Troy! My account will have been deleted by the time you read this but it's been nice talking with you. TTFN ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : How could you do TMSP on the beach? Inflatable life raft or some such? LOL, no this was long before my life as a TMer. Would like to try meditating there though - nice and quiet when you get to an isolated spot. The trouble with sitting still on a beach is that insects find you, there are some mighty big and fast spiders out there, not conducive to deep relaxation. What we need is one of these: Could go yogic flying down the beach, that'd raise some eyebrows! From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 5:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Acropolis Now! The Greeks vote for an end to the "austerity" politics that the EU and IMF have imposed on them since they had to be rescued from bankruptcy. Be interesting to see what happens next, some of them might have to delay retirement past the age of 50, and other horrors. They should never have been allowed to join the Euro anyway, all these poor countries playing on a level field with Germany and France, it was bound to end in tears. So they might as well get it over with and go back to the Drachma. But with all money connected worldwide we'll all feel the effects of a break-up in the Euro. Interestingly the UK has similar levels of public debt, the difference with us is our creditors still think we might be able to pay it back if we destroy more public services and sell the remains to the private sector so the people we owe money to can make even more out of us. It's all gone horribly wrong somewhere, the banks wreck society and have to be bailed out by the government who say they don't have that sort of money lying around so the banks say don't worry, we'll lend it to you. £1.5 trillion later and we still don't know what's going to be required to sort it out. But pity the Greeks, their biggest export is strained yoghurt and there's only a few of them who pay tax, the rest work for the government.... I had the best summer ever living on beaches on Greek islands, I got all Jason and the Argonauts cooking fish and potatoes over an open fire every night. Once a week we'd go to a taverna and drink in the culture with dancing and ouzo then watch the stars come out over the sea. All rather excellent. I'd do it again in a heartbeat but I don't know if it's still possible now everything is Euro-legal. Are people allowed to just sleep rough on beaches anywhere? Sleep on the decks of ferries to save money? Loads of European kids used to do it for a cheap summer holiday in paradise, nowadays most are too worried about how dossing about will look on their CV's. Fucking politicians ruin everything..
