Found a Face Book page for Ancestors of Ambrose Dixon and also a page on
wikipedia about Ambrose Dixon and his Quaker affiliation. Pretty much said what
I had posted earlier.
From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:53 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers
Many Friends’ ideas can be traced to earlier groups. The first distinct
Protestant movement in England was Lollardy, arising in the late Middle Ages,
the 1370s.
Good survey of earlier 'Antinomian' England:
Early Quaker History
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
"The spread of the Antinomian tradition,as begun by the Lollards, was by means
of extended kinship,intermarriage, and child rearing and education. As will be
seen, theLollard movement, which continued right up to the English
Reformationof the 1530's, was a dissident religious reform campaign
thatharbored an ingrained Antinomian frame of mind. As such, Lollardywas as
much a radical stance from which even more radical views andbeliefs evolved
over time, as it was a sect with a definitivetheology and program of action. It
comprised, therefor, manydissident attitudes about the nature of true
religion,, the characterof a “real” church, and the correct role of the state
in relationto it. In short, it was a conveyor of religious and
politicalradicalism. The means of dissident transmission was by familieswithin
great kin networks, part of a much broader process of whatmight be called a
“cultural genetics"."
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
But thanks to people like George Fox, the Quietist movement lived on under
different names.
Yes, Jai George Fox!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
"Kinship, therefore, was a determinantof far more than mere bloodlines: it was
a radical culturaltransmitter, reflecting persistent defining cultural,
religious, andpolitical traits. It continually revealed repetitive
familialcontinuities and ancient customs of significant proportions.
Tracinglong lines of familial descent show that kinship connections
almostinvariably portended the descent of radical religious tendencies, andthus
of radical political positions. ..Thus, this continuous, repetitivecongeries of
familial patterns was not only accidental, it was anhistorically definable and
demonstrable phenomenon, a marvel of greathistorical significance."
Renegade Yankees The Antinomian Tradition and AgrarianResistance in the
Colonial American Northeast, 1636-1809by Donald Alan Smith
Miguel de Molinos was the main inspiration.
But Madame Guyon - particularly through her book "A Short and Easy Method of
Prayer" - helped popularize his approach.
Her high-profile supporter was Archbishop Fenelon.
All three were targeted by the Church hierarchy. The history of Catholicism
would have been radically different if their ideas had been treated with more
respect.
Jeanne-Marie Bouvier de la Motte-Guyon
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
MD, as one Western transcendentalmeditationist remarkably you evidently are
part of a long line-bred traditionthat came out of European separatist
spirituality. This dissertationI am reading describes this as like the genetics
of cultural familialDNA, a “cultural genetics” passing as cultured from
generationto generation. ..In your case the English Lollard antinoniam line
toNew England affecting radical religion and politics. There wereother
transcendentalist spiritual lines that migrated directly out ofEurope also
which affected our American radical (transcendent) spirituality (equality)
andpolitical sensibilities (rights) as to the proper role of church and State
inour culture.
I would nominate you for a Maharishi Award in recognition of you and your
family's long relationship with this.
-JaiGuruYou!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
Good example, MD of how a spiritual movements can spread in a time. Sort of
like TM did in the 1950-70's. By shakti of experience and then word of mouth
from family and friends. That was the Quaker spiritual movement in its day.
Mobility through kin and connection.
Someone here in Fairfield with connection to Vermont and New England just
handed me a 900 page dissertation that was written on the spread of what the
author is calling, 'antinomianism' of various shades. A study of separatist
spirituality from European roots moving across New England, jumping and going
around what was then the ISIS-like colony of its day, Massachusetts Colony to
settle further into New England.
A thesis in this work amongst others is that this separatist spirituality
(different than religion) moved in its day following kin and business
connection often through seaports and then inland.
MD writes:My tenth Great Grandfather , Ambrose Dixon, was born in London in
1623. He migrated to James Virginia about 1640. He came over as a ship's
carpenter.He was a Quaker, living in a predominately Presbyterian community. He
and a few other Quakers felt discriminated against for their faith and
petitioned Lord Baltimore to move to Maryland where they were welcomed and
granted land. I guess you could say he was *in* on the beginnings of the Quaker
Sect and one of the first in the colonies.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
Yes, I had wondered this too and chronicled some of it in a subject thread here
on FFL.
Often those who were referred to as 'separatists' had quietism as a central
practice in addition to may be having Ritam Bhara P (inspired) or attending
spiritual (chakra) energy work (Pietists).
Maharishi's tenet of 'collective meditation' is most similar to George Fox's
movement in its day.
Today someone like Ammachi or Janet Sussman are good examples of the spiritual
practices of 'piety' at work. Connie Huebner in Fairfield is a great example
of the old spiritual line of inspirationists (RPB) coming out of Europe that
goes way back. They each blend quietism with their spiritual disciplines.
It seems that every generation or so another one rises up with their manifest
spiritual experience and a satsanga may form. Generations of separatists
generated a lot of writing that they passed around between each other in and
across Europe.
You would proly enjoy scrolling down through these posts on transcendentalist
European separatists:
423860RE: In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/423860
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <yifux...@yahoo.com> wrote :
Does TM have any European antecedents? . The Quietist Movement arose in the
Catholic countries: Italy, France, and Spain and is most associated with Miguel
de Molinos, 1628 - 1696.A parallel type of thinking and practice arose through
George Fox, but many rudimentary antecedents can be found, for example, some
practices of certain Gnostics, Cathars, and Meister Eckhart..The online sources
are using the term "contemplation" (Quietism would be an example). The sources
use the term "meditation" implying meditation ON various religious images and
themes including silent repetition of prayers and vocal prayers, as well as
various religious rituals. To clarify TM's place in the 17-th century
controversy, we can isolate the Silence/Transcending aspect of TM, and for the
same of discussion, forget the Puja part. Then, TM would definitely be in the
Quietist camp, since there's no imposition of any religious images (they may or
may not arise spontaneously). But all of this is heretical, as Miguel de
Molinos found out some time after his Spiritual Guide was published. At first,
the Mystical approach of Molinos was accepted among many Catholics, but
detractors eventually emerged such as Gottardo Bellhuoma, who in 1678 pointed
out that (what he called the Quietism of Molinos), was definitely heretical
since it elevated "contemplation" above "meditation (i.e. meditation "on"
various religious images along with prayer)..Some key works or phrases in the
Quietist movement: self-annihilation (of the ego), self-absorption, withdrawal
of the mind, passivity, and continual contemplation on "God" (i.e. the
Absolute...not the "God" of the Bible); all leading to what the Quietists
called the "Unitive Life" (sound familiar?). At any rate, Molinos was
eventually tried for Heresy and died in the Inquisition prison.But thanks to
people like George Fox, the Quietist movement lived on under different names.
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