[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers

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Thanks for the followup discussions!  I had to google Lollardy to find out 
more.  In that it's associated with Wycliffe and many Lollards were his 
followers; it appears that relating to the eventual development of Quietism, 
Wycliffe may have been in some ways a setback.  His "Bible" only viewpoint help 
set many free from the clutches of Catholicism and present day Evangelicals 
rank him as one of the greatest of all-star predecessors to the antinomianism 
we see today in say, the Southern Baptists.
   Unfortunately, there seems to be no strain of Self(Gnosis) revelation in 
Wycliffe, unlike Fox who in my book was one of the greatest of the 
Enlightenment pioneers.   Hence....segue to modern practitioners of meditation 
that have inherited the Quietist inspiration.
  The concept of cultural DNA is fascinating and makes the Provenance question 
all the more difficult to simplify in something like an unbroken linear tree 
(as may be found in Shankara's Tradition or  among the Patriarchs of Jerusalem 
Orthodoxy.
  Such topics no doubt may provide fuel for a host of Phd dissertations, but 
there's one aspect of transmission such scholars would rather not touch upon 
due to political or cultural correctness:  That is - by way of example - that 
a. as in the case of individuals such as Fox, direct revelation from some 
aspect of "God" is possible and may lead to new Movements of great importance.  
Likewise from the Indian subcontinent there are many examples of great Saints 
having no particular Guru.  b. Similarly, a whole wave of  people can incarnate 
and be ready for an appearance of somebody like MMY; and it would be difficult 
for anybody to come up with logical antecedents or an explanation even from 
cultural DNA.
 Simply put, a. individuals and groups can receive direct experiential 
revelation through interior means and such pioneers are ready for the new 
knowledge because they have prepared for it in previous incarnations.  This 
idea would be completely taboo among Ivy League scholars. But imo there would 
be no other way to explain why MMY came to the West and people were already 
prepared for it!  Why? Because they incarnated to meet up with that particular 
Sage in space/time....with no antecedents necessary.
 There were of course antecedents to TM such as Yogananda's Kriya Yoga but that 
Movement was insufficient to explain the later development of the TM Movement 
with its many adherents.
 It's not necessary for us to look for the Teachers of the Buddha, Jesus, 
Shankara, or Ramana Maharshi. They had direct experiential revelation.   (of 
course, in many cases both aspects can coexist)...external teachers and 
internal revelation.
 Thanks again!
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 Lollardy (Lollardry, Lollardism) was a political and religious movement that 
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