---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :
I recall back in 1979 when Bevan showed up in Seattle and came to warehouse to fly. Didn't even hop once. Maybe it's too embarrassing for Rajas who only have money but no mastered abilities. Rajas have money, period. Why in the world would anyone think they had any special evolutionary status? I tell you, the TMO is wacked. On 09/12/2016 05:11 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have always found that rather insidious, not that it affects me in the slightest, but that the "higher ups" cannot practice "program" with the commoners. What was the rationale behind that? And it had to come from the "top", right? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Downtown Fairfield, Iowa In line for coffee i ran into an old TM movement TB’er apparatchik who is still active in the middle of things teaching TM. His immediate observation about this lack of wider cohesion in the group was that the Rajas need to come meditate in the Domes. That is a part of the problem and they could help by coming back to the Domes to meditate, also. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : vox_9 asks: Does Dr. Hagelin join in the group program in the Patanjali Dome of Pure Knowledge on the MUM campus? No. from further below: there was a culture of specialness granted to sub-groups that sent people out. "..established program halls of which there are 11 (including the Domes)" . The litany of this kind of bifurcation has bled the place. The anemia needs to stop and meditators should to come together. Numbers meditating in proximity quite evidently need to be attended to now as part of a collective re-group in this period. This needs conscious leadership. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : The need for leadership, for instance, within "process" this memo paste here below was sent as part of this broader consideration about the leadership a couple of weeks ago, as some of the initial vollies of announcements about these times were being edited and sent around to meditators. [Paste.. Memo, We need Strategic leadership, right now. “It was Tepid, at best. Dear DfP Strategic Planning Sub-Committee members, that e-mail on the conditions of these times that was sent out recently with Hagelin’s name on it was limp. He and Nader are being school teachers where we need leaders. There are things we know and can move on. 1]We know the value of group meditation by our experience. 2]We know that Modern science now tells us the correlation of great inherent values of transformation that come in and from group meditation. Right now we need leadership, front and center, that directly says 1] this is who we are as transcendentalists. 2]this is where we are going. 3]That regardless of how people may feel about the movement and their past experience with it as an organization, that we need meditator’s help for good reasons, right now. 4]That it is time for meditation and we need every meditator’s help with this. Now. Not a buried memo or statement quietly saying ‘..that it would be good if..’. No, we need present leadership and meditator volunteers to come forward right now in this period. Right now. As a community we need voice that has some bravado in it. Now. Right now. Firm voice that says directly, 1]‘this is what we are about and who we are as a group’, that we are Transcendentalists and 2]as practitioners this is where we are going. We need leadership from the top right now that says this, over and over again. No tepid ‘it would be good’ bullshit. Leadership out front. If the school teachers can’t do it then bring in someone, someone like Mario O for instance, someone who has some conscious theatrical camp in them, to say it. Someone needs to be making the rounds to the camps doing this, right now. This is what great CEO’s and great Generals do. They make the rounds cheering and instructing mission. This is exactly the time for great leadership now to come forward and lead from the front, with some huzzah! The leadership of TM has spent 35 separating people from TM . It is certainly time to actively acknowledge, remediate, and ask of people to come back, for good reasons. JaiGuruDev, ” end paste] ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : As a major tenet, numbers of meditators meditating in proximity quite evidently need to quickly be attended to now as part of a collective ‘re-group’ in this uncertain and transitional period. This needs conscious leadership and this will take some clarity of vision and mission. Within the larger meditating community there is a lot of spirited consideration of this that is going on now given the times. The group seems to need a more cohesive communal mission statement to work with and stay together with. . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : As to the loss of cohesion mentioned below, Surveying groups of meditators downtown, old TM teachers, several pointed out that what they liked about going to the Dome was ,when everyone went, it was social. Going was being part of something larger and you saw old friends and old acquaintances from old campaigns of the movement. The table agreed and thought it might be fun to see who is still there. Some were saying it was not worth the aggravation of having the course office interrogate their private lives now. The Lack of cohesion.. They started losing group cohesion when 1] they started in taking people’s Dome badges away back in the 80’s and throughout the 1990’s and 2] they facilitated special group program rooms other than in the Domes. At that point people from across the meditating community were no longer attenders going into the Dome shoulder to shoulder alongside one another regardless of socio-economic class of meditator. The community lost its daily check-in as a larger community was dispersed. Yes, there was specialness granted to sub-groups that sent people out. ..established program halls of which there are 11 (including the Domes) . The litany of this kind of bifurcation has bled the place. The anemia needs to stop and meditators should to come together. Numbers in proximity quite evidently need to be attended to now as part of a collective re-group in this period. This needs conscious leadership. I understand why some people don't live in Fairfield and thus can't get to the dome to meditate in a group every day. What I don't understand is why the rajas and other residents of Vedic City apparently don't meditate in the Patanjali Dome of Pure Knowledge. Where do they do program and do they do it alone, or with their family? Most of the residents of the TM Ideal Village down here meditate and do program together in the Maharishi Dome of Pure Knowledge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : “These are the times which try human souls.” There is lots of ‘process’ in fact and organizing going on right now in the transition. Both Dr. Hagelin and Dr. Nader as Western scientists appreciate feedback and resonance of input as data to work policy with. The old never-entertain-negativity is out and effective people on merit will be much safer and more able to voice their hearts and minds with this particular leadership change. By virtue of a change of personality the institutions will host a different tone and culture going forward from this. -JaiGuruDev ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : The criticism is understandable given the context. In kind It seems symptomatic of change and to be expected. Some people are unsettled and upset by change. That feeling is going on too inside TM with all that is progressing in the works. The status-quo evidently has changed. The change may become more certain once we get beyond this current transition period and beyond the 12th of Sept. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> mailto:authfriend@... wrote : Let's not forget, folks, that JamesAlan has a history of creating his own evidence-less narratives out of whole cloth. Pretty funny to see him criticizing someone else for the same thing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jamesalan735@...> mailto:jamesalan735@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : It is what happened. Was done most discretely at pay grades in this way above most. Was very bravely done. Lot of committee work and no e-mails to show and was strategically done in a way to save face for everyone. They all do still have to work with one another in some way at their level. As it evolved there were some working committee reports published that were being shared around in the process, if you were here. In the deliberations I had them and showed them often to people who were stakeholders in this. Doug, I know that this post will not in any way result in you posting anything other than what you have posted above and previously, so my three final comments on this: #1: Saying one have evidence does not constitute evidence. [<--I know you don't understand this] #2: You have never produced evidence in any previous posts re: Bevan Morris [See #1] #3: The above paragraph does not contain any evidence [<-- See #1] Right now there is a ‘president-elect’ waiting to take charge and the current President is to go on to something else in a few more weeks. Effectively the 24/7 of the University will no longer have to report to this current President. There likely will be a different tone in the institution by virtue of a change in personality in charge. Like it or not, the movement is a corporate democracy now as Maharishi himself set it into corporations. It is no longer a theocratic autocracy that can be ruled simply by decree. Is now a lot more process involved with boards and trustees. ..‘involving ‘many heads makes better decisions’ as Maharishi used to say. There is more transparency inside it now and more process involved in it. There are still a lot of good people working in it. So it is. They are working hard at it while waiting for the transition to actually happen. It is very analogous to the lame-duck wait after our national election happens and a new president-elect transitions into office on inauguration day, some 8 or 10 weeks after the election. As much as a lot has to be done right now for this new academic year it is in a slow transition now. Given the practical necessities they face and the jyotish also one can imagine their difficulties and have some empathy for them all in what they are experiencing... The mundane jyotish: Aug 24 Saturn and Mars @ 15degrees of Scorpio, Transit characterized by ANGER. There is a star in Scorpio that is the war star in combination with Mars etc.. makes it all particularly difficult. August 23-26 will be extremely violent with Mars transiting the fixed star Antares. Aug 30 Mercury retrograde in Virgo =Havoc in Communication Around September 13 (the 12th?) it will be treacherous and very violent again due to transiting Saturn’s return to the degree of the fixed star Antares. As Jr points out, the good news is that.. Sept 17 Mars Exits Scorpio, the most difficult period passes Jai Guru Dev ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> mailto:olliesedwuz@... wrote : from about two months ago... http://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/education/higher-education/new-president-named-for-maharishi-university-of-management-20160622 http://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/education/higher-education/new-president-named-for-maharishi-university-of-management-20160622 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jamesalan735@...> mailto:jamesalan735@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : --- snip --- Several have not gone to the group meditation in years. Most were not even aware that Bevan was changed out... I've asked you several times to produce evidence that "Bevan was changed out", and you've never produced any such evidence. [You don't have any] Of course, my point above is a complete waste of time on my part, as I know that you cannot help creating narratives to support your points of view and will continue to do so.
