On 09/17/2016 10:21 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
You questioned my terminology. The Yahoo term for the person
responsible for the group is List Owner. Doug is the List Owner of
FFL. No further "research" needed on that point.
*And how does Yahoo define "List Owner"? You need to look into that.
They won't leave it as an abstract definition.**
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Your post is a non sequitur.
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Nonsense. I'm explaining how and why tech companies which I have over
30 years experience with use their terms of agreement to define things.
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We're not talking about who owns user content or moving FFL to another
platform. Rather, I was pointing out that Doug, as list owner, can
unilaterally decide what type of group he wants FFL to be and enforce
that decision, including, e.g., throwing all of us out and adding new
members who are more to his liking, banning political discussions, etc.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :
Not good enough research. I don't have time nor the interest to
wander through the group "terms of service and agreement" but these
issues have come up in the past regarding these kinds of companies.
For instance there was an issue over Facebook overreach with regard to
owning user content. IOW, if Doug took Fairfield Life to another group
like Google or Reddit etc Yahoo might have a problem with it though
likely not as FFL isn't even a blip on their radar.
We know that other Fairfield and TM centric groups have come and gone
on the Internet. The only ones that seem to survive are the ones that
expose the authoritarian overreach of the organization.
On 09/17/2016 09:34 AM, authfriend@... <mailto:authfriend@...>
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
As I said, Doug is the owner of FFL. "List Owner" happens to be
Yahoo's own term for the individual responsible for a group. Look
at any group "About" page; scroll down to the "Group Email
Addresses" section. The last address is called "List Owner." For
FFL, the address is:
fairfieldlife-ow...@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:fairfieldlife-ow...@yahoogroups.com>
An email to this address will go to Doug.
For The_Peak, it's:
the_peak-ow...@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:the_peak-ow...@yahoogroups.com>
An email to this address will go to Jim.
For the Self-publishing group, it's:
self-publishing-ow...@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:self-publishing-ow...@yahoogroups.com>
(Don't know who the owner is for that group.)
And so on. This is standard throughout Yahoo Groups.
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <noozguru@...>
<mailto:noozguru@...> wrote :
On 09/17/2016 06:31 AM, authfriend@... <mailto:authfriend@...>
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Well, I was going to suggest that we not wait to be
"exiled," but simply pick up and move over to FFL2. The ugly
threatening tone of Doug's recent posts suggests that we
don't have any voice in the matter; he's clearly not
interested in entertaining dissent.
Remember, Doug is the owner of FFL, and if he wants to turn
it into a forum that Rick and those of us who have been here
for years wouldn't recognize or find appealing, that's his
prerogative. His recent post indicates that he's huddling
with anonymous folks who have apparently never participated
in FFL, so their concerns don't reflect ours.
(If the name "FairfieldLife Freer Speech" is claimed to
infringe on the "FairfieldLife" brand name so as to preclude
our using that forum for discussions that don't conform to
Doug's ideas about isolating spirituality from the rest of
human experience, I'm sure Alex would be willing to change
the name.)
*More likely Yahoo is the owner not Doug. It's probably in
the terms of service. Doug would just be considered
"responsible" for it. It's a "rights" issue and often part
of these kinds of services. Or basically attorneys on
steroids creations.
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <awoelflebater@...>
<mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <authfriend@...>
<mailto:authfriend@...> wro! te :
Most of us who are discussing politics are not "trolling,"
and it's insulting to suggest otherwise.
Political discussions are "without spiritual context" only
if you put spirituality in a box and wall it off from the
rest of human experience. Rick realized this, and chose not
to build such walls. That's why he didn't limit discussion
topics in any way (other than to exclude pornography).
It looks like we (the non-spiritual cretins that we are) may
be exiled off to FFL-2 if this keeps up...
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<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <dhamiltony2k5@...>
<mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
I am appreciating the comments here about the group.
The trolling of mundane subject threads here posted and!
scrolling ticker-tape style down the subject line with first
lines of posts like one can read on news feeds most
anywhere, but on FFL, a spiritual Yahoo-group, they often do
seem to abuse the freedom of what Yahoo provides us as a
group. .
While being entertained by most any and all of content
posted here on FF yet as a responsible member here I am
looking at several who have long method in trolling the site
with offered material that is quite without spiritual
context, evidently unrelated to FFL, a spiritual
Yahoo-group. Yahoo asks us for moderation. I have relied
on membership to self-contain themselves in a moderation
according to an inherent civility entailed the Yahoo-groups
guidelines as the means of community here. Most have been
able to write quite well within what is given to us as the
Yahoo-groups guidelines. Those guidelines do provide really
quite wide margins for expression.. Yahoo Groups Guidelines
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