--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > I'll try again, briefly. To laugh *at* someone is, > > virtually by definition, an attack. Confirming that > > one is laughing *at* somebody is therefore equivalent > > to stating one's intention, so no minds need to be > > read. > > > > Please note that in this instance neither Lawson > > nor myself was the target of the attack; we were > > commenting on the hypocrisy of the attacker > > claiming it *wasn't* an attack on the person being > > attacked. > > > > (The attacker, needless to say, went on to attack > > both of us, not even under the guise of laughing > > at us; and among other absurdities, pretended that > > we were somehow "threatened" when we hadn't been > > the targets in the first place.) > > And all of this because I found something > that Anon said so funny that I laughed out > loud about it, and said so. What I found > so funny was the glorification of the > intellect by someone stuck in the intellect.
Right, you attacked anon, just as we said. > And so, as it turned out, who on FFL chose to > turn my laughter into a big battle? Actually, you did, if you'll recall. All I did was point out that laughing at someone constituted an attack. Then you attacked me, at considerable length, for saying so, and went on to attack Lawson for agreeing with me, then posted a long diatribe in which you suggested laughing at someone was a teaching method. The other > members of FFL who are classically stuck in the > intellect, so much so that they consistently > attempt to present being stuck in the intellect > as a pathway to enlightenment, that's who. Since neither Lawson (as far as I can recall) nor I have ever suggested being stuck in the intellect is a pathway to enlightenment, it's not clear who you're referring to here. In fact, I can't think of *anyone* on this forum who has ever made such a suggestion. The > whole scene really *IS* pretty funny, IMO. :-) > > I don't know about anyone else, but the > thing that *I* have learned from all of > this is that for some people the idea of > being laughed at is so painful and so scary > that it *always* feels like an attack to > them. Laughing at someone is always an attack, virtually by definition. As I've noted several times, however, that doesn't mean that the person laughed at *feels* attacked. You're conflating the perspective of the attacker with the perspective of the target of the attack. It's entirely possible to recognize that someone has attacked you without feeling victimized by the attack, you see. That's essentially very, very sad, > because it implies that for these people, > laughing at one's *self* is probably equally > scary. Because being able to laugh at one's > self is, in my experience, essential to the > process of discarding it (realizing the Self), > I have come to the conclusion that the people > who consistently act like this have made a > conscious choice to *not* realize enlightenment > in this lifetime. They're that afraid of > losing the self. > > And because anyone who *has* glimpsed the Self > and spent some time free from self realizes how > silly this fear is, they will laugh at the people > who fear losing the self even more, which in turn > will make them even crazier than they are now. > > It's ALL very funny, in a weird sort of way. > > The laughter is going to win. The clinging > to self is going to lose. That's just the > way the world works. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
