--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > <snip great rap> > > > > > > > > So, the same with akashanon. The more he challenges what we > who > > > > have Awakened express, the stronger it gets. I don't know > whether > > > > it helps him or not, though... > > > > > > acting out their > > > "I'm in ignorance and proud of it but I'm willing to tell > > > you all about enlightenment anyway" thang here on FFL, > > > > HAHAHAH. If this is not projection, what is!! > > > > You acknowledge you are not "enlightened", yet expound on it > > constantly. "I'm in ignorance and proud of it but I'm willing to > tell > > you all about enlightenment anyway" thang here on FFL," describes > you > > perfectly. Good job. > > > > And more cognitive errors, which is to be expected with posts from > > Barry (and Jim, Tom, etc.) For example, when have I ever said "let > me > > tell you all about enlightenment"? Read my posts. I think E is NOT > a > > useful term, label or concept. <snip> > > Akashanon thinks that if he can challenge and equivocate, or > rationalize, every experience he and others report, and keep from > acknowledging that real progress can be made, and that there are > clear milestones for such, he can avoid his painful realization that > all of his seeking has for him come to nought. (of course it hasn't, > but he *thinks* it has...). > > That is why he now proclaims that liberation, enlightenment, > Brahman, identifying with the Self, Awakening, etc. are not useful > terms, labels or concepts. Every attempt to have him state what he > *does* believe in just results in his challenging the perception of > the person asking.
Is Awakening something to be "believed in"? Does what you believe in have anything to do with becoming enlightened? > OK akashanon, you, unlike all of the spiritual teachers in the > world, have declared the very concept of Awakening as invalid; that > there can be no legitimate transition between ignorance and > Awakening, that all we can apparently hope for is some small, > incremental experiences of expanding our awareness, maybe, and that > no phase transition occurs between one state, ignorance, and > liberation, enlightenment, Brahman, identifying with the Self, > Awakening, etc. Boy, that isn't what I understand him to be saying. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
