Sounds like the perfect duality of CC. There is Self/nothingness/consciousness and then everything else which has this "flat" or false quality to it. As if it isn't real at all. I used to call it the cardboard world. No substance to it. It all hung like a tiny basket within That.
--- anonyff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter > The experiece was very confusing to have and moreso > to describe. If I > were the one doing the witnessing, I would > experience myself as > separate from Being. This was not that. I would be, > say, standing and > talking to someone, see them, see their mouth > moving, hear the words > but they seemed puppetlike and along with that I was > very aware of > them as separate from Beimg and Being seemed > pervasive. > That's as good as I can describe it. > > > > ]. witnessing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- anonyff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I have/had an experience for a few months and on > and > > > off since, that > > > left me baffled and I spoke directly to > Maharishi > > > about it on a coufse > > > back in 1980. My experience was one in which > while I > > > was standing > > > there talking to someone I experienced that they > > > were separate from > > > Being. The way I described it to Maharishi was, > it > > > was as if when I > > > looked at another person I experienced that they > > > were witnessing. > > > > > > Maharishi told me that this was growing Unity > > > consciousness. > > > > Can you detail your experience some more? I don't > > quite understand it. You experienced others as > > "separate from Being" meaning they were outside of > or > > distinct from Self, as if "other"? What do you > mean > > by, ..."that they were witnessing"? > > If I'm understanding your experience correctly, it > > sounds more like growing CC than UC, but I'll wait > for > > your response ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "authfriend" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > TurquoiseB > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > The first is that I am > > > > > > > *immensely* grateful that, unlike them, > I > > > have had my own > > > > > > > experiences of enlightenment > > > > > > > > > > > > But apparently not the "There is no > > > me-versus-them, > > > > > > we-are-all one"-experience... > > > > > > > > > > Actually, even though it's being asked by > the > > > Judybot, > > > > > I'll deal with this one. :-) > > > > > > > > > > That is correct. I have had quite a few > > > experiences > > > > > that map to what TMers might call 'CC.' I > have > > > had > > > > > other experiences that don't map to anything > > > that has > > > > > *ever* been mentioned in a TM context, but > were > > > pretty > > > > > neat. But as it turns out I have neither > had, > > > nor have > > > > > I ever sought, any experience that could in > any > > > way be > > > > > descried as "there is no me-vs-them, we are > all > > > one." > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that this description has almost > > > nothing to > > > > > do with real experiences of the direct > > > perception of Unity. > > > > > In other words, what I think Judy is > describing > > > is a > > > > > guess, *from the point of view of someone > who > > > hasn't > > > > > even experienced CC*, of what Unity might be > > > like. > > > > > > > > Actually not. Not only is it a frequently > > > reported > > > > experience on this forum (odd that you've > somehow > > > > managed to miss it) and elsewhere, but I've > had it > > > > myself on occasion. I don't know whether it's > a > > > > "direct perception of Unity," but then I > didn't > > > claim > > > > it was. It *is* an experience of perceiving > the > > > Self > > > > in others. > > > > > > > > > Me, I consider her description NewAgeSpeak > at > > > its > > > > > worst, so admit with some *pride* to never > > > having > > > > > experienced anything like it. > > > > > > > > Actually, I'm pretty sure that with a bit of > > > > searching, I could find posts of yours in > which > > > > you've said something very much like this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Carry on... :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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