--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Well, maybe insufficeint, but pocketing the original money would > > have been a problem for the bribe-happy Spanish officials, because > > there was a paper trail on the money they confiscated from Leon > > generated by the fact that they arrested him, and it would have > > either had to go on to trial or they would have had to return the > > money to Leon. By bringing in a new suitcase of money for the > > bribe, the officials just put the new loot in their pockets > > without issuing a receipt and then got a receipt from Leon or > > whoever when they returned the old money after dropping the > > charges "in the interest of justice" after a "thorough | > > investigation." >
> While true, it avoids the point of the discussion. > The TM movement, which poses as proponents of and > practitioners of "Natural Law," was more than willing > to smuggle money from country to country to avoid > paying taxes and duties on it. > ******** You are not providing any documentation that there are taxes and duties due on money leaving/entering the countries in question. There are no taxes or duties due on money/other financial instruments leaving the USA, and if you can cite any such fees imposed by other countries, please be my guest. I am assuming that the TMO simply did not want to go through all the hassles involved with declaration, until I see some proof that there are fees involved. > I was personally asked several times during the time > I worked for TM National in Los Angeles to smuggle > suitcases of money from the US to Switzerland. I > refused every time, *not* at the time because I was > being moral but because I was more than aware that > because of my hippy past and dossiers on me that > existed with law-enforcement agencies I was the > perfectly *wrong* person to do such a thing. What > escaped me at the time was that the very thing I > was being asked to do was bloody *wrong*, and that > the organization that was asking me to do it was > bloody *wrong* in *asking* me to do it. > > Even then (mid-70s), they had convinced themselves > that they were so "in tune" with "Natural Law" that > they had the right to violate actual law. > There is harmful wrong and harmless "wrong." This failure to declare was harmless. There is a famous story from India about a monk sitting at a crossroads when a panicked man runs by. A few minutes later, some bandits who were chasing him ask the monk what direction the man went in. To tell the factual truth would have been wrong, because it would have brought harm, so the monk lied and sent the bandits down the wrong road. Whatever is life-supporting is right, regardless of the facts, whatever is life-damaging is wrong, regardless of the facts. Of course, since you are only interested in spewing your contempt for TMers, these considerations of situational ethics won't mean anything to you, but practical people who want to accomplish something in a world as completely twisted as this is sometimes have to sidestep the bureaucracy. If the TMO did cheat any government out of tax revenue, that might be seen to be some harm, but there is no evidence that any taxes or fees were in fact due, just the fact that the TMO dodged declaration, which is due upon leaving many countries, including the USA, even though no taxes or fees are due on such entries/exits: http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/kbyg/money.xml ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
