--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <wayback71@> 
> wrote:
<snip>
> > Or, to put this in the framework of some people's enlightenment 
> > type experiences, sure 
> > you chop wood and carry water both before and after the Big E. 
> > The only difference is that 
> > after the Big E comes the knowledge that everything is happening 
> > by itself, on autopilot and in that case 2.  no one "does"
> > anything "wrong" since  it all happens anyway and 
> > choice is a total illusion. Therefore (and this BIG) 3. the 
> > Enlightened make the same "mistakes" and "right actions" as the 
> > unenlightened. Why would their behavior improve if 
> > you use this model? And...4 The Enlightened know that "they" 
> > don't make mistakes, while the rest of us not yet enlightened 
> > blame ourselves as we wrangle over doing the moral thing.
> > 
> > Maybe it is a question of how much sattva is there in the nervous 
> > system of any person, 
> > Enlightened or not? Of course, this means that MMY is not making 
> > any mistakes either - no matter how unkind or greedy the actions 
> > are - whew this is crazymaking stuff.
> > 
> > The upshot is that for the unenlightened, we just keep on trying, 
> > even if it is an illusion that we have control.  And part of that 
> > illusion is that it usually feels better to be around 
> > nice, funny people, honest people, kind people. There are 
> > enlightened rascals and unenlightened saints.  I think the 
> > perfection that we are all looking for, living in a human 
> > nervous system, is way beyond enlightenement -I don't know what 
> > name you call it. Maybe it only manifests in Sat Yuga.  But for
> > here and now, we just have to keep it simple. I think 
> > the TMO hurts people and is dishonest while the technique is a 
> > good one.  I would advise anyone to stay away from involvement 
> > with the TMO where money or lifeplans are involved.
> >
> Thanks for a *very* sane post

Boy, I'll say.  (Somehow I missed this first time around.)
Kudos, wayback!  This goes in the Keeper file.








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