--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <wayback71@> > wrote: <snip> > > Or, to put this in the framework of some people's enlightenment > > type experiences, sure > > you chop wood and carry water both before and after the Big E. > > The only difference is that > > after the Big E comes the knowledge that everything is happening > > by itself, on autopilot and in that case 2. no one "does" > > anything "wrong" since it all happens anyway and > > choice is a total illusion. Therefore (and this BIG) 3. the > > Enlightened make the same "mistakes" and "right actions" as the > > unenlightened. Why would their behavior improve if > > you use this model? And...4 The Enlightened know that "they" > > don't make mistakes, while the rest of us not yet enlightened > > blame ourselves as we wrangle over doing the moral thing. > > > > Maybe it is a question of how much sattva is there in the nervous > > system of any person, > > Enlightened or not? Of course, this means that MMY is not making > > any mistakes either - no matter how unkind or greedy the actions > > are - whew this is crazymaking stuff. > > > > The upshot is that for the unenlightened, we just keep on trying, > > even if it is an illusion that we have control. And part of that > > illusion is that it usually feels better to be around > > nice, funny people, honest people, kind people. There are > > enlightened rascals and unenlightened saints. I think the > > perfection that we are all looking for, living in a human > > nervous system, is way beyond enlightenement -I don't know what > > name you call it. Maybe it only manifests in Sat Yuga. But for > > here and now, we just have to keep it simple. I think > > the TMO hurts people and is dishonest while the technique is a > > good one. I would advise anyone to stay away from involvement > > with the TMO where money or lifeplans are involved. > > > Thanks for a *very* sane post
Boy, I'll say. (Somehow I missed this first time around.) Kudos, wayback! This goes in the Keeper file. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/