--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> <snip>
> > Second was that however hard I tried to feel bad
> > about the 24/7 realization not being as present as
> > it had been before, after a while I figured out that
> > it really was me *trying to feel bad* about it not
> > being present all the time.  I didn't *really* feel
> > bad; quite the opposite.  But because by that time
> > I'd had a decade of TM indoctrination about CC
> > being permanent once experienced, I felt that I was
> > supposed to feel bad because it hadn't seemed to
> > turn out that way.
> 
> CC in the TM context is by definition permanent, 24/7
> witnessing, as I understand it, so it wouldn't make
> sense to say "CC is permanent once experienced," nor
> have I ever heard that said.  Nor, however, have I
> ever heard anyone say *witnessing* was permanent
> once experienced.

This all took place before you even started TM.
The dogma today is not necessarily what the dogma
was then. Back then there was a lot of talk about
how you'd just one day experience CC and then it
would be permanent from then on. There was *no*
talk about people having "flashes" of CC; that
showed up much later, after it began to happen.
 
> I've always understood "CC experiences" to mean
> witnessing experiences.

I don't like the term witnessing, so I won't 
comment. I think it's a very loose and misleading
term for a much broader experience.

> It occurs to me that, as far as I'm aware, there isn't
> a term like "witnessing" associated with the other
> "higher states" in MMY's teaching, such that when the
> experience it refers to became permanent, that's God
> consciousness or Unity consciousness or Brahman 
> consciousness; "witnessing" seems to be anomalous in
> that regard--perhaps because it's less complicated,
> or less complicated to describe.

Or because the use of "witnessing" itself is not
just simple, but simplistic.  :-)








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