--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > Why do you suppose he hasn't republished it? [Chopra's 
> > autobiography]

A more relevant question -- why *should* he?

Your entire stance seems to be based on the belief
that he *owes* Maharishi something. My whole point
in bringing up this discussion is that I think 
*that* is the problem. Many TMers have developed
a strange perversion of the master-disciple rela-
tionship that, in their minds, makes it some kind
of sin for one of Maharishi's students to *not* 
give him all the credit for anything good that
happens in their lives. They are expected to do
so forever. This perversion of the idea of the
master-disciple relationship also tends to believe 
that it is a much *greater* sin to *leave* the 
"master" behind and move on.

This belief, although unstated, is IMO *the entire 
basis* of the vehemence shown by Bob, Lupidus and
yourself. You're all angry at Chopra for not obeying
the "rules" of a fantasy master-disciple relationship 
*that never existed* between Chopra and Maharishi,
or any of Maharishi's other students and Maharishi.
It's a relationship you imposed on *yourselves*,
and you're angry at those who either never bought
into it or transcended it.

> ****
> I got plugged into this thread by reading Barry's post, 
> where he was wondering about the vehemence towards Chopra 
> in the discussion by you and some others. 

Truth be told, I wasn't so much wondering about it
as I was exposing the topic for further discussion.
My suspicion is that the vehemence comes from 
suppressed anger at having to "obey" the imagined
"rules" of relating to Maharishi that these guys
have imposed *on themselves*. Inwardly, they are
resentful at having to obey these self-imposed 
rules, and intensely jealous of anyone (in this
case, Chopra) who realized that the so-called "rules" 
didn't exist, and that he was free to do exactly 
what he wanted. 

The TBs are not. They're *afraid* to; they have to
follow the "rules" they've made up about what 
constitutes a "proper" teacher-student relationship.
And in my opinion, the vehemence behind their words
comes from anger at *themselves* because Chopra
didn't submit to these self-invented and self-
imposed "rules."

> I have no opinion about the republishing, because I
> have no background information.

It's a TB pet peeve. They tend to believe that
Chopra should have continued for the rest of his 
life to give all the credit for his own ideas and 
achievements to Maharishi. They were deeply offended
when Chopra removed all references to Maharishi 
from his book. Again, my feeling is that they're
angry because Chopra did, without any sense of
guilt, something that they themselves would feel 
*enormous* guilt about if they did it. 

For example, the bottom line of both Bob's and
Lupidus' comments is *retribution*, the fervent
hope that Chopra is made to *suffer* for doing
nothing more than deciding to be his own man.
They expect him to go to hell, because that's where
they think *they* would go if they became their
own men and stopped being Maharishi's.








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