Denial is a wonderful thing.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <no_reply@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> 
> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sure, in fact the TMO bought large quantities of books at 
> the 
> > > right 
> > > > > time to
> > > > > > get them on the best seller lists, which then created a 
> > > momentum.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Not directly, as far as I know. The best-seller lists 
> > > > > monitor "institution sales," so to get around that I 
> suggested to 
> > > Carla 
> > > > > Linton and she passed on to Chopra who said it was the best 
> idea 
> > > he had 
> > > > > ever heard, to do a well-organized, piece-meal buying 
> campaign, 
> > > where 
> > > > > Chopra supporters would by a handful of books from each store 
> and 
> > > then 
> > > > > resell to their friends at exactly the same cost that they 
> paid.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This idea was disseminated unoficially throughout the TMO and 
> > > > > individual supporters of Chopra and there were well 
> organized, 
> > > non-
> > > > > institutional mass-purchases of Chopra's books as they came 
> out. 
> > > This 
> > > > > kept the purchases off the institutional-buy radar but had 
> the 
> > > same 
> > > > > effect.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So a devious means to pull the wool over peoples eyes was used 
> to
> > > > promote a technique that promotes "Truth" and  "Enlightenment". 
> > > 
> > > IT wasn't devious.
> > 
> > Yes it was. If not, why not send a letter to the best seller list
> > compilers and state what you were doing. You your self said you were
> > trying to fly under their radar. The "method" was to make it appear
> > something was happening that was not. True of so much TMO. And
> > politics / governement / PR / advertising. 
> 
> Why should they? It was an attempt to prime-the-pump by getting 
> people who were already going to be buying his book to buy his book 
> sooner. The people weren'ttold to buy lotsof copies and then shop for 
> buyers, but to contact their friends and offer to buy the book for 
> them. It was a way of concentrating the sales that were already going 
> to take place into a shorter period of time.
> 
> >  
> > 
> > > The books were resold to friends. I made it clear, 
> > > and the letter did also, that the books would be purchased FOR 
> people 
> > > that would be buying the book anyway. We just bought it for them 
> in 
> > > very short period of time, as opposed to the trickle-effect that 
> > > casual buyers would have had on his week-over-week sales in the 
> > > initial period when it was released.
> > 
> > But you would have resisted a letter sent to the best seller list
> > compilers. Why? You were trying to deceive them. 
> 
> I wasn't in charge ofthat. If you want to send such a letter now, 
> describing what I and many others did, feel free and get back to us 
> with how they respond. Please make clear that we were buying books 
> for friends who had said that they already were planning on buying 
> the book.
> 
> >  
> > > > 
> > > > One amongst many such devious and deceptive ploys.
> > > 
> > > Not that devious and certainly not illegal,
> > 
> > no not illegal,
> > 
> > 
> > > unethical or immoral.
> > 
> > That's debateable. 
> 
> Only in your eyes. Feel free to chat with the owners of bookstores or 
> with the compilers of the best-seller lists over the issue. I know 
> that bookstore owners don't care either way since a saleis a sale, 
> and I'm pretty sure that the scenario I presented, where the purchase 
> was already planned, would satisfy the book-sales list people as well.
> 
> > 
> > As I said, 
> > > > So a devious means to pull the wool over peoples eyes was used 
> to
> > > > promote a technique that promotes "Truth" and  "Enlightenment". 
> > 
> > Its an ends justify the means saga. We can be dishonest so we can
> > promote Truth.
> 
> Its not dishonest. It was a concerted effort to concentrate buying 
> power of peoplewho were already planning on buyingthe book.
> 
> > 
> > > And 
> > > how is it deceptive to buy a book or three for friends who were 
> > > already going to buy the book? The only effect that my strategy 
> had 
> > > was on *timing* of book sales. 
> > 
> > Yup. To deceive the best seller list book compilers. Who in turn,
> > innocently deceived their readers - that all these sales were
> > individuals rushing out to buy the book. 
> > 
> 
> They were sales to people who WERE plannning on buying the book.
> 
> > 
> > We got all the fans to make their 
> > > purchases inthe first week or so, rather than inthe first month 
> or 
> > > three.
> > 
> > And thats not deceptive? Why not inform the list compilers of your
> > stragegy and let them decide whether to include the sales -- if you
> > had no intention to decieve?
> >  
> 
> Why don'tyou contact them for us and tell us what they say?
> 
> 
> > > > 
> > > > Is there much doubt why it didn't work out?
> > > >
> > 
> > > But it did work out and quite well, on the levelof book sales at 
> > > least. 
> > 
> > My reference was to the TMO, World Plan, etc. When "ends justify the
> > means" is employed, when deception and misleading spins are used to
> > promote Truth, its bound to fail.
> 
> Paranoid when you were with the TMO, and paranoid now that you are no 
> longer withit, I'm guessing...
> 
> > 
> > >Chopra's booksales were quite brisk for a completely unknown 
> > > author during that time, and put him squarely in the sights of 
> > > publishers as an up-and-coming writer.
> > 
> > And looking back on it, in YOUR view, that was a good thing. Chopra
> > became an established "media darling"?
> >
> 
> It was the stated intent of the TMO to create Chopra's image. That 
> Chopra took the image and did his own thing with it was his choice. I 
> resent him for it, that's how these things work.
>






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