--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > AND many book buyers depend on these lists to narrow down the list > > > of books they will consider buying. > > > > That's actually a much smaller factor in the > > equation. MUCH smaller. And it doesn't kick in > > until the book has been on the lists for at least > > a few weeks. > > And thats your opnion. Fine. I have a different view.
Again, it ain't an opinion, it's facts and statistics. > > > >One thing you need to bear in mind is that best- > > > seller status is not some prize awarded for the > > > quality of a book; > > > > > > I disagree, per above. > > > > Well, it's not a matter of disagreement; it's a > > matter of fact. And certainly nothing you said > > above is relevant to this point. > > Ah. Its FACT. Why didn't you say so. Well if its a FACT, I have no > case. Oh, btw, who and what deterimined it a FACT? The book industry, of course. > > You would have a great deal of difficulty finding > > anyone knowledgeable about publishing who would > > say best-seller lists are a measure of the quality > > of the books on them. > > BZZZZ another STRAWMAN!! I never said they were. Yes, you did. See above. You said you disagreed that best-seller lists were not a measure of the quality of a book. > > > And "ethics" is a bit of a > > > strawman. My concern was "deception". > > > > Er, deception is generally considered unethical. > > Really? Then many political speeches, half of advertizing, 90% of > dating is unethical. Should we line the bastards up and shoot them? Speaking of straw men, you mean? > > > To me, "decption" /slight of hand is more objective. It happenend or > > > it didn't. Ethics is in the eye of the beholder. > > ... > > > I think thats deceptive. You may > > differ.I may draw the line higher than you. > > > > > > > > No, you're just ignorant of how the publishing > > > > industry works. > > > > > > Thats funny. "I think thats deceptive. You may differ.I > > > may draw the line higher than you." is an invalid statement > because [I am] just ignorant of how the publishing > > > industry works." ????????? > > > > Yes, indeedy. > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. My values should be based on how [youpercieve] > some industry works. Preious. Gosh, I could never make this stuff > up. As I said, that you can't understand why your "values" in this situation don't make any sense is a function of your ignorance of how the book industry works. <snip> > > > >Enron's ploy > > > > involved other people's investments. People lost > > > > their life's savings as a result. Who lost money > > > > as a result of Chopra's ploy? > > > > > > Obviously the book sellers and authors whose book would have > > > been on the best seller list had the chopra book campaign not > > > used slight of hand practices. > > > > You're still not getting it (willfully at this point, > > I suspect). The booksellers, obviously, wouldn't > > have lost any money at all; more likely they'd have > > lost money *without* the Chopra campaign. > > UM Read what I wrote. > > > > "Obviously the book sellers and authors whose book WOULD have > > > been on the best seller list had the chopra book campaign not > > > used slight of hand practices." You think there are book sellers who sell only one book?? > You are saying that the publishers of the margianl book that got > bumped because of Chopra manuveur mad more money?????? Holy Shit! Oh, you meant *publishers*, not booksellers. See, those are two different categories in publishing industry terminology. Maybe that's why you're so confused. I hate to tell you this, but publishers are in competition with one another. That's another aspect of marketing, competition. If you want a best-seller, you have to spend money promoting it, or you have to find another way to promote it, such as, for instance, demonstrating that a substantial number of people were so enthused about Chopra that they bought his book as soon as it came out. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/