--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
<jstein@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
> <no_reply@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Whatever floats your boat. :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As long as we're dealing with speculation, I
> > > > > > > think you're pretty heavily invested in not
> > > > > > > being responsible for your own decisions and
> > > > > > > actions. Something in you doesn't believe that
> > > > > > > they could ever be perfect if it was "you" that
> > > > > > > made the decisions. So you like to believe that
> > > > > > > the universe goes to the trouble of making them
> > > > > > > all for you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It isn't about one set of decisions/actions that you
> > > > > > would make if you were "in charge" versus a different
> > > > > > set that would be made if the universe were "in charge."
> > > > > > It's the same set of decisions/actions in both cases.
> > > > > > The only difference is your experience of who/what is
> > > > > > "in charge" of them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your experience of who/what is in charge of them,
> > > > > plus your *preference* as to which of those to base
> > > > > your life in the relative on. *Especially* if your
> > > > > experience is that *both* "in charge" and "not in
> > > > > charge" are your experience, *simultaneously*. Then
> > > > > it becomes all about *both* of these things being
> > > > > true, from their respective states of attention,
> > > > > and the only issue is which one you choose to
> > > > > focus on.
> > > >
> > > > Non sequitur. Above you suggested Trinity had in mind
> > > > an "imperfect" vs. a "perfect" set of actions. I'm
> > > > pointing out that this is not the case, as I read what
> > > > he wrote. He's talking about the experience of who is
> > > > "in charge" with regard to the *same* set of actions.
> > >
> > > Of course, is it really the "same set of actions?" The river and
> > > all that...
> >
> > Talking about a single set of actions, not two similar
> > sets.
> >
>
> With or without enlightenment? Seems to me that you can't evaluate
> the exact similarity in that context, or have I missed something?
Again, it's not "similarity." It's a given single
set of actions, considered hypothetically from the
perspective of ignorance vs. that of enlightenment.
Barry had misinterpreted what Michael had said and
assumed he was suggesting the actions would be
different ("less perfect") if one were ignorant
rather than enlightened, whereas Michael was simply
talking about how one given set of actions was
experienced.
You might have to go back to the previous discussion
to get the context here.
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