--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> [...[
> > > > > > Non sequitur.  Above you suggested Trinity had in mind
> > > > > > an "imperfect" vs. a "perfect" set of actions.  I'm
> > > > > > pointing out that this is not the case, as I read what
> > > > > > he wrote.  He's talking about the experience of who is
> > > > > > "in charge" with regard to the *same* set of actions.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Of course, is it really the "same set of actions?" The 
river 
> and
> > > > > all that...
> > > > 
> > > > Talking about a single set of actions, not two similar
> > > > sets.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > With or without enlightenment? Seems to me that you can't 
> evaluate 
> > > the exact similarity in that context, or have I missed 
something?
> > 
> > Again, it's not "similarity."  It's a given single
> > set of actions, considered hypothetically from the
> > perspective of ignorance vs. that of enlightenment.
> > Barry had misinterpreted what Michael had said and
> > assumed he was suggesting the actions would be
> > different ("less perfect") if one were ignorant
> > rather than enlightened, whereas Michael was simply
> > talking about how one given set of actions was
> > experienced.
> > 
> > You might have to go back to the previous discussion
> > to get the context here.
> >
> 
> Ithink the analogy of the river still holds: is it the same river 
> with or without a given whirlpool, or rock?

The analogy of the river is fine, it's just a non
sequitur in this context.






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