Personally, and in all seriousness, I still believe it is ALL conjecture and overall, I'm sorry I spent so much of my life believing in this stuff.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <anonyff@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm sorry, with all due respect I'm going to take great exception > to > > this answer and to all answers that seem to reduce the > > life/mindset/emotional state of the "awake ones" to these kinds of > pat > > answers. > > > <snip> > > That's kind of like taking exception to the fact that out of six > billion humans on this planet, if they were asked to generally > describe themselves, most would include in their description that > they had two arms and two legs... > > Also, keep in mind that Tom is just talking about the *inner* state > of the awakened person. As we have read, heard, quoted and thought > about, at least a zillion times, from the Gita, it says the state of > consciousness of a person can't be determined by their outside > actions. > > Yep, still true. > > Also, from waking state, or non-awakened state, there is no way to > intellectually `get' this sense of true equanimity that Tom > describes. It can only be understood as mood-making from waking > state. The mind is not permanently satisfied if we are not Awake. > Therefore the only way it understands equanimity is to assume a > false state of evenness, because it isn't settled. The mind in > Unawake state is still at odds with itself. > > So Tom isn't talking about external actions or fake evenness, he's > just stating the obvious about being Awake. Nothing more than ever > changing perfect coordination between the person and their ever > changing environment. > > > Personally, I think there are as many forms of enlightenment as > there > > are people, I think that people still get angry, hungrly, lonely, > > tired, irritable, sick, and that they act just as spontaneously as > > anyone/everyone else > > Yep, diversity continues, with no attempt at stopping it, > categorizing it, slowing it down or thinking about it too much. > > and that all this constant intellectualizing is a > > form of severe mental masturbation. > > > > What ever happened to meditate and act? > > I give up, what? > > > > Anonyff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The full appreceation of the thought > > > includes the fulfilment of the completion. In other words full > > > knowledge of the act in the relative and the full appreciation > of the > > > outcome. Kind of neat actually. Desires are now seen as > appreciation. > > > No conflict, no unfulfilled desires, no problem. See the > thought, do > > > what is obvious, move on to the next obvious thing to do. TOm T > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
