--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mar 3, 2006, at 6:48 PM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote: > > > 3) There are many paths and many mountians. Process is Product (LBS, > > and to a degree others such as akasha/anon) > > Or... > > View (Darshana/"Rishi" or Experiential POV) determines Path > determines Fruit (or Realization) > > which can also be shorthanded as "Enlightenment depends on View". > > or conversely > > View Determines Fruit. > > Ancillary observations: > > Different Darshanas or Views lead to different styles of Fruit or > Realization > > Each distinct darshana will have it's own internal logic, unique to > it's View, Path and Fruit. > > Correct View leads to gaining confidence in the View but this should > not be mistaken as Enlightenment. > > Incorrect View can be ascertained and tested. > > Gradual methods generally take the approach of View -> Path -> Fruit > > "Sudden", or non-Dual methods place importance of correctly getting a > glimpse of the non-dual Fruit, and *then applying the Fruit as the > Path*. This is essentially a Pathless path, but it is in another > sense, still a Path. Sometimes people on Pathless paths like to point > this out to people on gradual Paths or even pretend (or are simply > unaware of the fact) that Pathless Paths are still Paths. The idea of > "no doer" can become a trap if one does not get the View of a > Pathless path which uses non-meditation as it's method. Even though > it is non-meditation (with no doer) this still is a sadhana (although > hardly conventional in the searcher, searching on a path sense). To > deny non-meditation as a method, ignores the fact that integration > can progress, even in Unity. > > Amen.
Amen brother (and sisters). Thank you for your insights. I am sure you have additonal comments on other DRAFT FFL Sutra points. May I take a stab at integrating your insights/realizations/knowledge -- which btw, relate beyond point 3.3 -- into the perenial DRAFT FFL Sutras, v1.1? ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
