--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > wrote: > <snip> > > > > For the record, my experience is that the realization > > > > that I was off on a thought is enough to evoke the mantra; > > > > there's no intervening intention to think it. > > > > > > My own belief is that this is ALWAYS the case, but we may not be > > > aware of it, at least at first, due to our inexperience with > > > subtler states of the thinking process. > > > > That's *exactly* what I think. > > To elaborate a bit: I don't think one ever "receives" > a mantra (at least a bija mantra of the kind TM uses). > I think the bija mantras are something like resonant > frequencies of the "sound" of paying attention (or the > "process of observation"), which are always present on > subtle levels of the mind; and that one's attention is > called to one of these frequencies on the gross level > of speech by the teacher when one is initiated. > > To put one's attention on the mantra is thus, in effect, > to pay attention *to the paying of attention*. Or to > put it another way, one is observing the process of > observation itself; the process of observation becomes > the object of observation. >
Interesting. Devata becoming Chhandas... Which is part of the definition of samadhi. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/