--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> <snip>
> > > > For the record, my experience is that the realization
> > > > that I was off on a thought is enough to evoke the mantra;
> > > > there's no intervening intention to think it.
> > > 
> > > My own belief is that this is ALWAYS the case, but we may not 
be 
> > > aware of it, at least at first, due to our inexperience with 
> > > subtler states of the thinking process.
> > 
> > That's *exactly* what I think.
> 
> To elaborate a bit: I don't think one ever "receives"
> a mantra (at least a bija mantra of the kind TM uses).
> I think the bija mantras are something like resonant
> frequencies of the "sound" of paying attention (or the
> "process of observation"), which are always present on
> subtle levels of the mind; and that one's attention is
> called to one of these frequencies on the gross level
> of speech by the teacher when one is initiated.
> 
> To put one's attention on the mantra is thus, in effect,
> to pay attention *to the paying of attention*.  Or to
> put it another way, one is observing the process of
> observation itself; the process of observation becomes
> the object of observation.
>

Interesting. Devata becoming Chhandas... Which is part of the 
definition of samadhi.





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