On Apr 4, 2006, at 9:12 PM, sparaig wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Apr 4, 2006, at 7:04 PM, sparaig wrote:
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> > First time I've heard that Ken Wilbur has learned TM.
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> See his description of CC and TM at:
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> http://www.shambhalasun.com/index.php? 
> option=com_content&task=view&id=2288
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Odd since CC is always mentioned during the 3-nights checking, that he 
hadn't heard that it was present during deep sleep. In fact, most TMers 
first report witnessing sleep BEFORE they report witnessing waking 
state. Such was MY experience, and many others, IIRC.

There are no rules, everyone is different. The only thing that distinguishes it from waking state is simply the odd feeling of being awake when you thought you should be asleep--but then TM witnessing or CC is not the same as lineal CC--at least according to Dr. Pete.




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