On Apr 6, 2006, at 6:10 PM, sparaig wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 6, 2006, at 5:46 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 6, 2006, at 5:26 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it's the whole shebang, a complete package...don't > need > > > > > anything else... > > > > > > > > Well that's probably because you were taught to believe that. > > > > > > > > When you learn more you find out you need to perfect the mantra > in > > > > all the bodies, not just the mental one. Eventually you need to > > > > pierce the bindu. Unless I missed something, this ain't taught > in > > > TM. > > > > It's as Barry described, a beginning. > > > > > > > > > > So the guys reporting witnessing 24/7 are merely reflecting > beliefs? > > > > Self reporting would always be an issue in the TMO as far as I'm > > concerned. > > > > Also understand none are able to demonstrate the full definition > of > > witnessing (sakshin). > > OK, what is the "full definition of witnessing"and how do you know > that none of them are able to demonstrate it given that you don't > know who these people are? > > Nor the full definition of turiyatita ("Cosmic > > Consciousness"). > > See above. > > There are some elementary, hopeful signs perhaps. > > Given the fact these people have been meditating for a very long > > while, it's not that great IMO. > >
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