part of todays [EMAIL PROTECTED] exchange. steve
Thanks to all for the info. So, I guess Diksha is a form of shaktipat or something? I believe Muktananda gave shaktipat. If an agreed on definition as i understand it is the transference of the guru's energy to the disciple, then deeksha is not shaktipat. I have never heard it refered to by the deeksha Oneness Movement as shaktipat. A more appropriate definition might be the laying on of hands. Some see the golden light go into the crown chakra. And virtually everybody feels it enter the body and then do different things. For some it is physical work on a part of the body, for some it is bliss and joy, for some it results in kundalini moving, for others it is deep peace and quiteness and a few dont notice much of anything. Almost all notice work going on in the head or on the head or both.But it is not anything that the deeksha giver does. He is merely a wire between the Divine Presence and the recipient. While many have immediate mystical experiences it is pointed out that those experiences are just temporary (even if reoccurring) experiences. the ultimate effect is to live an awakened life, a life free from suffering. Mystical experiences dont necessarily produce a joyful life. Message: 16 Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 18:41:39 -0000 From: "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Digest Number 4658 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <thedoc108@> > wrote: > > > And here is the behind the scenes reality of the > > Movement on Deeksha. > > > > Jacque, the former National Leader of Holland went to > > MMY and told him he had received deeksha, wanted to go > > to India and be initiated into giving deeksha, and > > wanted to give it to the people in the siddha vilage > > in Lelystad. MMY did not endorse this idea nor did he > > attempt to dissuade Jacque from doing this. Many > > people in Lelystad now have received deeksha and a > > number of people have been trained to give it. Jacque, > > on his own decided it might be a conflict of interest > > to remain the National Leader of Holland so he told > > MMY he was stepping down. > > On my 21 day training course there were several > > purusha,one who was sponsored by Jacque to attend, who > > relayed this information to me. > > The fact is many people in the movement are receiving > > deeksha because it gives direct experience of the > > Divine, is not a path or a spiritual technique, has no > > teachings, no scriptures to read nor is obedience or > > loyalty to any gurus needed. It is just pure > > experience. > > I have no comment on diksha itself ... but it seems MMY has now made > his opinion on tmers doing diksha known via the public announcement, > or do diksha people feel Konhaus is acting on his own. I think it's > obvious MMY told Konhaus to put this out because diksha is getting too > popular within sidha circles. > TM = non-sectarian, universal Diksha = religious in nature. Therefore, anyone who does TM can choose to practise the religion of their choice and still do TM twice a day. So what's the problem. If Diksha is a meditation technique or spiritual technique, then MMY has said that one can do 100 different meditations as long as they do TM...and, hey, a direct MMY statement trumps a Konhaus statement any day of the week. So what's the problem? Good point however it is not a meditation technique or a spiritual technique(meaning it is not something that you do), like yoga or pranayam. you dont get deeksha everyday. it is recommended about once a week or less. It takes about 7 days for the golden light to go thru your system. Now it is 80+ degrees here in austin and i can hear the golf course calling my name. namaste --- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
