--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
<snip>
> > How about the documentary "Tibet: Cry of the Snow Lion"?
> > 
> > If I'm wrong in my analysis, why not tell me where I'm wrong?
> 
> Well, since you asked...

Note that Barry does not answer the question Shemp
asked but substitutes his own question, one that 
enables him to put Shemp down in his answer.

<snip>
> They've got a clue, in my opinion.  In my opinion, NO
> ONE I've *ever* encountered from an Indian/Hindu-based
> tradition does.  They are basically *clueless* as to 
> what happens when they die, and often as fearful of
> dying as the "man on the street."  (Just look at 
> Maharishi hiding in his sterile room, afraid to even
> interact with other human beings...is this how some-
> one who is 'established in Brahman' or even unafraid 
> of death would act?)

Quite possibly, if he felt it was important for him to
stay alive as long as possible to complete a crucial
task.

Fear of death is far from the only reason to postpone
it as long as possible.  Some might even *prefer* to
die rather than hang around but feel a sense of
obligation to complete unfinished business.

> And to be even more in your face, death is going to 
> happen -- to YOU -- far sooner than you want it to.  
> You personally are going to DIE within twenty years,
> and probably closer to ten.

Shemp is going to die in his early 60s or 70s?

And you know this how?

 You're going to be lying 
> on your deathbed, still knowing as little about what 
> lies in front of you when your body breathes its last
> breath as you do today.  You'll be about to dive into
> an experience that is as much a mystery for you as it
> was the day you were born.  Whereas a lot of people who
> have actually studied with the tradition you like to
> make fun of (Tibetan Buddhism) will just be getting
> ready to perform a series of meditational exercises
> that they've been preparing for their whole lives.

Or one might be of the opinion that some people are so
afraid of mystery and the unknown that they spend
significant portions of their lives absorbing others'
speculations about the mystery and convincing themselves
they have the definitive map to it, as well as putting
out a great deal of effort in exercises these same folks
have told them will make the mystery less scary when
they have to face it.

<snip>
> I'm just sayin', Shemp...that the time before you die
> might be better spent figuring out what dying is all
> about than it would be trashing the only people on the
> planet who seem to be able to *teach* you what dying
> is all about.

Some may feel that the time before you die should be
spent in living that time fully, rather than becoming
preoccupied with what might happen after it.

It seems to me that the people who are *most* afraid
to die are those who spend inordinate amounts of time
trying to prepare themselves for it.






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