--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 8, 2006, at 2:19 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: > > > Yep- that all makes sense. The one thing we should establish in this > > life is groundedness, centeredness, identification with the Self, > > the cosmos, Brahman. Just makes the rest of it manageable, and much > > more interesting. Otherwise we just as you say, tumble around with > > our minds closed, even to our selves! Life or death, get centered. > > That's exactly one of the points of my post, there is no center. You > are truly beyond space and time. There are no reference points, no > "referentiality". Part of the terror of doing a retreat in total > darkness--and in some parts of the Shank. trad. they do an 11 month > dark retreat--is when you do come back to the "body" there's still no > reference points. No inside or outside, the vase has shattered. >
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