<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@>
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "vajradhatu108"
> > <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In
> >
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> > > <tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > TorguoiseB writes: snipped
> > > > I sat there trying to not have as much fun with the
> > > > day as I knew I was capable of having, and then I
> > > > caught myself doing it. The moment I did, I was
> > > > able to laugh at myself. And through my laughter,
> > > > I found my body saying "Yes." Out loud. Weirdest
> > > > damned thing.
> > > >
> > > > Everything changed. Background flipflopped into
> > > > foreground and the witnessing, a moment before
> > > > unnoticed, moved front and center and reasserted
> > > > its Self again. And all it took was getting to
> > > > "Yes."
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure it'll pass...all things do...but it's
> > > > neat while it lasts. Life's cool sometimes, yes?
> > > >
> > > > Tom T:
> > > > Very astute observations. Reminds me of Patanjali Chapter 3
> > > > Vs 54: Knowledge born of the finest discrimination takes us
to
> > the
> > > > farthest shore.
> > > > It is intuitive, omniscient and beyond all divisions of time
and
> > space.
> > > > Vs 55: And when the translucent intellect is as pure as the
Self,
> > > > there is Enlightenment.
> > > >
> > > > It is the Self knowing the Self but there is the working of
the
> > > > intellect that makes the final and finest discrimination.
> > >
> > > Actually the above quote is about viveka-khyati --an important
> > experience and
> > > discrimination which can continue for quite a while, but alas
is
> > not liberation--athough
> > > that is the next chapter (of the YS). It *is* often confused
with
> > liberation. <snip>
> >
> > Actually, your statement is a misunderstanding of the
simultaneous
> > realities, of, on the one hand, our continuous experience of
ever
> > expanding growth and knowledge, and on the other hand, the
> > unmistakable experience and truth of liberation.
> >
> > Those that experience liberation know it to be what it is. I
> > particularly liked Alex's description of it as the end of war
with
> > ourselves. Many, many other descriptions are out there, so it is
> > pointless for me to go any further describing such a state.
>
> Just to clarify, I was not talking about war with myself in the
> context of any sort of spiritual woo-woo. I was referring to war in
> the sense of rejection of my individual humanness, specifically,
how I
> show up as a sexual being. I.e., mundane self-loathing.
...and the difference between that and spiritual woo-woo is what?
One informs the other...
> But, yes, the state I find myself in now is definitely what I would
> call liberation. I would describe it as free-floating in now. On
the
> other hand, it seems to be making life an even bigger challenge.
I'd
> always been very much enamored of relative existence, but since the
> dark night, the joys of the relative have not returned to the
> overshadowing glory they used to be. Erotically, I'm still dead.
> Enjoyment of food returned only a little bit. Gazing with Waking
Down
> teachers used to be experientially delicious, and now it is flat.
> Basically, I'm bored stiff and this body feels like a prison.
>
> I guess this is where the "continuously finding and discovering
more
> and more about our Selves" comes in.
>
> :::: sigh ::::
>
Maybe you are a little lost in old habits. Just find some new stuff
to do, or revisit some old stuff.
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