--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" 
> <premanandpaul@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh dear, you are so very attached to your beliefs, and nothing 
MMY 
> > actually said makes any difference huh? Okay, I was just offering 
a 
> > quote from the man himself, but what would he know?
> 
> Triple non sequitur.  Obviously, you and I are
> interpreting the quote differently.
> 
> It looks to me as though he's referring to the
> principles *behind* TM ("the secret"), specifically
> that transcending is natural and effortless, rather
> than the specific implementation of those principles
> in TM as MMY teaches it.

P.S.: If he had been referring to the specific
implementation, I strongly suspect he would have
expressed it so as to make it crystal clear,
instead of the vague "secret of swift and deep
meditation."  And he would probably have insisted
that he teaches the technique *exactly* as Guru
Dev taught it to him.

Note that he doesn't even say Guru Dev *taught* him
"the secret."  He says he learned it "at his feet."

I suspect the vagueness was deliberate, and that it
was because he didn't want it to seem as though he
knew something Guru Dev did not.

Or if you want to look at it more negatively, he
was being vague to make it *seem* as though the
technique came directly from Guru Dev, to give it
Guru Dev's authority, without actually saying so.




> 
> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" 
> <premanandpaul@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Right from the very early times, MMY most definitely claimed 
> that 
> > the 
> > > > meditation he teaches (TM) was taught to him by Guru Dev. A 
> look at 
> > > > page 244 of 'Thirty Years Around the World' (a TMO 
publication 
> by 
> > > > Maharishi Vedic University, 1986) confirms this. Allegedly on 
> 29th 
> > > > April 1959 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi told journalists:-
> > > > 'My life truly began 19 years ago at the feet of my master 
when 
> I 
> > > > learned the secret of swift and deep meditation, a secret I 
now 
> > > > impart.'
> > > 
> > > Paul, that is *not* a claim that TM--i.e., what MMY
> > > teaches--was taught to him by Guru Dev.
>






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