--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 7/30/06 3:53:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> Well, I  can't speak for her appearance on Donny Duetsch, but on 
> > Hardball it  was quite obvious she was poking fun at liberal 
thought 
> > processes by  holding a liberal icon up to that light of inquiry.
> 
> "Holding a liberal  icon up to the light of inquiry"??
> 
> Really?
> 
> "The light of  inquiry" is what she was holding
> Clinton up to?
> 
> And since when do  liberals hold people "up to
> the light of inquiry" by publicly speculating  that
> they're gay?
> 
> It's conservatives who tend to think being gay  is
> somehow scandalous and terrible.
> 
> Liberals tend not to think it's  worth bothering
> to speculate about. (Except in the case of  
> conservatives who moralize over what an awful
> threat to society  homosexuality is and then turn
> out to be secretly gay themselves. Then  it's
> their ugly hypocrisy that is really the  topic
> 
> I think you miss the point she subtly made. Either defend the
> concept that rampant promiscuous  sexual encounters are a sign of 
> latent homosexuality or defend Clinton for having them.

Huh??  Why should I do either?

> I don't think Ann really thinks Clinton is  
> gay.

No, I don't either.

> I don't think many people do.< I've heard a number of times 
> liberals speculating that Condi is "really" gay and a few
> others as well.

Not *responsible* liberals.

 Remember the  
> fellow that was accused of being a ringer in the White House press 
> corp for the Administration? He was accused of being gay for no 
> other reason than to try to embarrass the administration.

He not only *is* gay, he was a gay prostitute, had
a semi-pornographic Web site advertising his services
(complete with nude photos and, er, measurements, as
well as information about his circumcision status).
He had no serious journalistic credentials, and he was
a right-winger who made a big deal of his Christian
principles.  Again, it was the hypocrisy involved.

> Remember Kerry's comments about Mary Cheney in 
> the  debates? Do you think Kerry was really concerned for Mary 
> Cheney or was hoping he might embarrass the Cheney's on national
> TV for having a lesbian daughter.

He intended to embarrass Cheney for the Bush
administration's stance on gay marriage,
actually.  His concern was for gay rights in
general.

Mary Cheney was long since out, at that point,
by the way.  Kerry wasn't blabbing any secrets.

See, the slur that Kerry wanted to embarrass
Cheney because he has a lesbian daughter comes
from the perspective that having a lesbian
child is something to be embarrassed about.  As
far as Kerry and most liberals are concerned, it
isn't.  To the contrary, having a gay child who
is publicly out and an activist, as Mary Cheney
is, is something to be proud of.

> It happens more by liberals than you think and not
> strictly to point out hypocrisy.

Well, that certainly wasn't what happened in this
case; and I can't recall seeing it from any
responsible liberal for any other reason than to
point out hypocrisy.







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