--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

All interesting stuff. 

But it leads to the question: is this quieting (shut-down may be too
extreme a pharase) of the thalmus ever seen outside of TM? That is, is
it totally unique to TM? I am asking beyond meditation techniques. For
example, has it ever been observed under influence of pharecuticals,
herbs, heroin, various illnesses, post-extreme exercise, heavy
endorphin conditions, traditional or modern medical procedures, some
sleep patterns, anesthesia, etc. 

I am not challenging you or being argumentative. I am sincerely
curious. Its fascinating to see interesting correlations of physiology
with TM and other techniques. However, if the same thing happens with
some other things -- such as brain coherence with epilepsy - it
provides some sperspective -- and raises a new bundle of research and
philosophical questions. 



> Contrast this with Fred's theory about samadhi: 
> 
> The thalamus is the gateway to about 90% of sensory input into the
brain (almost all 
> visual, auditory and tactile input goes straight through the thalmus
while taste and smell 
> bypasses it) and it acts as a switchboard sending incoming sensory
information from the 
> various senses to the relevant parts of the brain for processing.
Those parts of the brain 
> then send the processed information back to the thalamus which
routes them back 
> through the loop again, modifying the incoming raw sensory input
with the processed 
> input.
> 
> When you sleep, the thalamus tends to shut down, but the rest of the
brain becomes less 
> alert. During samadhi (ala TM) the thalamus tends to shut down, but
the brain remains 
> alert, according to various fMRI and EEG studies. The mind has
"withdrawn its senses like a 
> turtoise withdraws its limbs into its shell" and awareness is left
awake to itself without 
> sensory  input--even the "subtle" sensory input from the
feedback--to modify it.
> 
> This is radically different than what is found during other forms of
meditation,  even/
> especially when "bliss" is reported during them.
> 
> It's the dfference between relative and absolute, played out
neurologically within the brain. 
> OR, the experience of this within the brain, leads one to describe
the world in these terms. 
> Either way, its radically different than the high concentration
Buddhist meditation findings 
> that Vaj likes to tout here.
> 
> And the TM-Sidhis MERGE this neural behavior with activity, as MMY
says, or so the EEG 
> findings strongly suggest.
>







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