--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > Again, it was always stressed, in my experience, that > > celibacy was a *calling*, not a discipline. "Agreement > > with the body" actually conveys that idea: if your body > > wants to have sex, no such agreement can be made. > > But with all due respect, as I understand, you were never on a TTC, > ATR or hung around MMY.
Yes, I believe I was quite explicit in saying this was what came across *to the rank and file*. I also said "at least this was what came to us via TM teachers." Did you miss those explicit qualifications? What may have been stressed to you -- again by > those flakey NY teachers (joke, (though valid in some cases) I knew > and flew regularly with a number of them). My observation is that > teachers would "spin" things they had heard from MMY to make it more > palitable to "meditators" back at the center. > > And many things MMY said on TTCs, ATRs, and other advanced courses was > for teachers. Not for meditators. Not that it was "super secret" nor > "dual teachings", but most teachers knew the line between what MMY > told teachers and what was appropriate to tell the public and > meditators in the field. And I beleive he told Purusha more explicit > things. > > > I don't mean to suggest that celibacy might not > > facilitate enlightenment, at least on certain paths; > > but I strongly suspect fighting with your body to > > stay celibate for that purpose is actually > > counterproductive to enlightenment. > > Thats your suspicion. Not what MMY said. > Once some said, "But selibacy is hard!". He said, "yes it is hard." > and went on to extol or at least allude to its benefits. And that is consistent with "making an agreement with the body" how? > > > It always sounded to me more like, > > "Sounds to you" from teachers in the field. Who are creatively > finesseing and spinning to some degree. Not the same as coming rom > MMY's mouth in smaller goups. > > >If you can > > comfortably take or leave sex, leaving it is an > > advantage when you're pursuing enlightenment; you > > don't have to indulge in sex just because it's > > considered "normal." > > That may be a wise thing, and is sort of the slant I have heard SSRS > give. On advanced courses. On his TTC's, perhaps he takes a different > angle. However, its not the slant I heard MMY take many times. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
