--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Nothing you said changes my opinion of where you're 
> at. Clearly, you seem to believe (because you've said 
> it again it in this post) that if someone (me) doesn't 
> feel the same unconditional love for Maharishi that 
> you do, that means that they are "resentful" and have 
> some sort of secret "agenda." I'm sorry, but that's 
> insanity, not bhakti.

Of course, he *didn't* say that.

> I have *never* suggested that you shouldn't feel
> about him the way you do. Kindly give me the same 
> respect.

He never suggested you shouldn't feel about MMY
the way you do, either.  And his posts to you have
been *far* more respectful than yours to him.




 I consider Maharishi Just Another Guy, not 
> special in any way. He's just a guy like any other 
> who has done a number of positive things in his life 
> and an equal number of negative ones. I cut him no 
> more slack than I would any other human being, and 
> I hold him to no higher standard than I would any
> other human being. 
> 
> And, like any other human being, I reserve the 
> right to praise the positive things he's done and
> criticize the negative things he's done. That doesn't
> mean that I have some "agenda" against him, only that 
> I consider him Just Another Guy, no more important or 
> special than you or me or anyone else on this planet. 
> If the fact that I believe this makes you uptight, 
> that's *your* problem, not mine.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <babajii_99@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" 
<babajii_99@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From reading between the lines, it just seems to me that 
> > > > you have some kind of hatred towards Maharishi, some 
> > > > jealousy or envy maybe? I don't know.
> > > > Is your +agenda+ just to diss Maharishi, or to crucify him, 
> > > > for all to see.
> > > > I'm just not sure where you first started feeling so much 
> > > > animosity toward him.
> > > > Am I +wrong+ about the way you feel toward him?
> > > 
> > > Yes, you are wrong about the way I feel towards
> > > Maharishi, and you're starting to sound like an 
> > > insane cult fanatic to boot. :-)
> > > 
> > > I think you should go back and re-read the two
> > > posts you are commenting on above. In them I 
> > > said absolutely NOTHING negative about Maharishi.
> > > Not one word, not one line. 
> > > 
> > > All that I did say was that I don't believe he 
> > > is enlightened, and then I explained why. 
> > > 
> > > Somehow, in your mind, "reading between the lines,"
> > > that became "hatred," "jealousy," "envy," an attempt 
> > > to diss him, and/or an attempt to "crucify" him. 
> > > 
> > > Do you even REALIZE this?
> > > 
> > > I didn't bother to reply to this cult crap last
> > > night, but I will this morning because I really
> > > think that you should become a little more aware 
> > > of how your *own* mind works. All that happened 
> > > in this series of posts was that someone (me) 
> > > said that he didn't believe that Maharishi is 
> > > enlightened, and then explained why.
> > > 
> > > YOU turned that into "hatred," "jealousy," "envy," 
> > > and an attempt to "crucify" Maharishi. Clearly,
> > > you seem to believe that all of these descriptions
> > > apply to anyone who doesn't believe that Maharishi
> > > is enlightened. Doesn't that strike you as a bit
> > > drastic and...uh...cult-like?
> > > 
> > > I'm beginning to understand how you can justify
> > > nuking the people of Iran. You must be "reading
> > > between the lines" with regard to them, too.  :-)
> > 
> > Hi again,
> > I wasn't trying to justify the bombing of Iran with Nukes; I was 
just 
> > pointing out, that as I was feeling it; my intuition was telling 
me, 
> > that the two regimes, ours and theirs seem to be on a collision 
> > course, to this end, and I wanted people to consider the 
> > ramifications of that. 
> >  And I wanted to emphasize what Maharishi had said concerning the 
> > state of danger at hand.
> > Now lately, you are hearing discussed, in the main stream press, 
and 
> > the Bush administration, exactly what I was predicting, would be 
the 
> > same mentality. So, I was trying to play that scenerio out 
beforehand 
> > so people could see it was coming...
> > Now my main point with Maharishi, which you seemed to have side-
> > stepped, in your editing of my words;
> > Has to do with the love I feel for him; and as you know sometimes 
> > love is irrational by it's mysterious nature.
> > As I said before, I immediately felt a heart opening when I am
(was) 
> > in his presence that doesn't dissolve,  
> > It is real to me, as anyone else, whom I've truely loved.
> > Love is unconditional if it is to be called love.
> > And if I feel that you do not share that love for him, but rather 
> > seem to be quite resentful towards him; I was just questioning 
your 
> > passionate statements and what was your true agenda concerning 
> > Maharishi, or his teaching or his movement.
> >   
> > Did he personally hurt you in some way?
> > Did he take you off your path, (you say, that you followed his 
advice 
> > to follow your path, towards more and more, right).
> > For me, I have done the same thing.
> >  ~~~ through the years; 
> > Studied Kriya Kundalini Pranayama, a technique of Babaji; I have 
> > studied Eckart Tolle's material; Tibetan form of  Tai Chi 
w/Mudras, I 
> > dance,   I listen to 'Holosync CD's (found this to intensify TM 
and 
> > Siddhis); I've worked with a councilor who works with soul energy 
and 
> > opening chakras;  Gangaji's stuff; 
> > Plan  to get to India soon, as I would like to study more in 
depth, 
> > and just experience where this knowledge is most lively.
> > 
> > So, the love and connection, which I feel toward Maharishi, 
> > transcends the movement, or anything anyone can say about him.
> > Some of us had a reading with a fellow named Ron Scolastico(past 
life 
> > reading guy)-- 'back in the day', and the question was asked, 
> > 
> > "Why people were so emotionally attached to Maharishi;
> > And the answer was:
> > 
> > The answer was, that some  of us, had been with Maharishi,
> > In a past life, where he was martyred.
> > And we all felt this sort of undying love for him, from that 
> > experience. so...
> > That's about all I can think of to write now;
> > Let me know if you need anything else clarified.
> > R.G.
>







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