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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> So here's a fun intellectual quandary to pursue...
> 
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> The thing that strikes me as a little odd is that 
> without exception, the TMers I've met who believe 
> that they can perceive or be in communication with
> something of Guru Dev's individual consciousness 
> *also* believe, when you ask them about it, in 
> Maharishi's dogma about what happens to an enlight-
> ened being when they die.
> 
> You remember that dogma, right? It's "the drop 
> returns to the ocean" rap, in which individuality 
> is *over* when the enlightened being dies, kaput, 
> toast, never to appear again.
> 
> Me, I don't know either way, but I do have fun
> noticing that the *same* people who firmly believe 
> that there is no individuality left after an 
> enlightened being dies (as Maharishi says) have
> no problem whatsoever believing that they've at 
> one point or another in their lives been in contact 
> with Guru Dev's individuality.
> 
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> It just strikes me that those who claim to believe
> in Maharishi's theory *should* have an intellectual
> problem with running into the individual conscious-
> ness of someone they consider enlightened who died.
> It seems to me that if they truly believe that 
> they've encountered Guru Dev's individual conscious-
> ness that they should believe that Maharishi is 
> wrong about his "drop returning to the ocean" theory.
>
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The critique (above) assumes that the past (and the future, too, it 
would follow) is an actual and separate reality from the present.  
But only the Present is ever experienced and the concepts of past and 
future only utilitarian concepts of slicing and dicing It so we have 
something to talk about.

The story of The One Hundred Rudras in the Yoga Vasishta is a 
delightful, mobius strip-like exposition of how human experience 
creates and accomodates "changes" through time and space.  I'm sure 
you've probably read it in the past.

However, to whatever degree someone did hold those two concepts 
simultaneously while also regarding past, present, and future to be 
separate realities, I agree that it would be something of an 
intellectual contradiction.  





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