--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for pitching in Turq. As we both know, there are no number of > examples that will be considered proof. And if one believer teacher > comes up to lie to protect daddy MMY, that will be considered the > final word. We have both been down this road before. Of course the > many examples of MMY himself lieing his ass off are also forgiven to > preserve the perfect daddy guru. It is an interesting that this is > not a topic most teachers would touch. Unless they never ran a center > or taught long, they know better. > > The original quote Spraig brought up came from a guy from JAMA who had > been lied to by the movement, Chopra at the time, on the disclosure of > business relationships to their study. He asked me how can a > spiritual group make a boldface lie like that, connecting its > spiritual facade with even the lowest grade of ethics. Funny that > Spraig should bring this up as the ultimate credibility challenge to > me, that I claimed to have been taught to lie for MMY! What a joke.
So... When were you "taught to" lie? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Remember: this is the guy who told Andrew Skolnick > > > > > that TM teachers were taught to lie. > > > > > > > > And this is Sparaig, who *still* hasn't gotten > > > > that what this admission means, if true, is that > > > > *his* teachers were taught to lie to *him*. > > > > > > > > I can think of dozens of instances in which I, > > > > as a TM teacher, was instructed to lie. About > > > > half of them were during my TTC, in terms of > > > > how to answer certain "embarrassing" questions, > > > > and the other half were while I was working for > > > > the National Center in L.A. > > > > > > OK. So howabout examples... > > > > No time today to do the subject justice, and > > probably no interest in doing it later in the > > week when things are less busy. > > > > I'll give you one example of the latter type > > of lie, the ones while working at National. > > > > After my period as a State Coordinator, > > I was asked to take over Barney Potratz's job > > at National while he was away on his sidhis > > course. So for a few months I was asked to lie > > to employees there at National on pretty much > > a weekly basis, and to potential employees (the > > people I was interviewing) on pretty much a > > daily basis. Most of the lies had to do with > > the mythical "course credit." > > > > When each of these existing employees had signed > > on, they had been told in explicit terms how much > > credit they would be "earning" each month towards > > ATR or TTC or their Sidhis course. Each of the > > new employees I was interviewing was told the > > same thing. > > > > But about the time I arrived, the "higher ups" > > (meaning, in this case, probably "International > > Staff" decided that they couldn't afford this any > > more, and thus had no intention of ever giving > > *any* of these people eve a penny towards any > > course. I was forbidden to tell them this. > > > > The way it worked was that when an employee > > applied to take the course they had been working > > towards, they were taken into an office and told > > that they had received no credit, and that this > > was a new policy that was a surprise to the person > > telling them this. (I never had to be the person > > who did this; I wouldn't have been able to pull it > > off.) If the employee spoke up about being ripped > > off, they were fired on the spot. > > > > After a couple of months of this, I quit and went > > to my own course, which fortunately I had enough > > money to pay for myself, and which even more > > fortunately turned out to be my last with the > > TM movement ever. > > > > This is just one example of how we were told to > > lie to people. There are many others. If the TM > > teachers here are honest, I'm sure they will come > > up with a few examples of their own... > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
