--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe we were using a Muller (is it Mueller?) > translation of the 9th and 10th mandala. Some of the > mandalas were censored because of their "sexual" > content. One example is in a 10th mandala sukta "...as > a frog desires water, flow Indu for Indra." What is > left out is the phrase, "...as a hairy cleft desires a > penis..."
Na, your thinking of the other sexually supressed German, and his Freudian slip (Did you know his slip is see through?) OffWorld I guess the Mother Divine ladies would pop a > stich if they heard that. > > --- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Well, it's all about pride and arrogance, in these > > cases... > > Having just traveled through the 'Badlands' of North > > Dakota; > > Just reminds me of another place and time: > > Custer's Last Stand... > > Those Euro's considered themselves quite superior to > > the savages, > > those tree hugging natives... > > Same attitude, I guess- > > Primarily British- "A bloody shame", really, and > > truely. > > R.G. > > > > .....(snippy > In case you hadn't noticed, > > the man believes > > that the British > > > > > deliberately rewrote parts of the > > > > > > vedic literature over a 150 year period in > > order to destroy > > > > > Hinduism...>>> > > > > > > > > > > He may actually be right about that. There was > > one Victorian > > > British > > > > > officer in India that deliberately > > mistranslated some vedic > > > > > literature for the purpose of specifically > > advancing the > > > christian > > > > > superiority complex over the hindu, and > > attempting to > > > deliberately > > > > > denegrate hinduism. This officer (I forgot his > > name) is recorded > > > in > > > > > letters and official documents that that was > > his specific aim > > > and he > > > > > was proud of his actions, and no-one > > questioned his actions at > > > the > > > > > time.. > > > > > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His tenure lasted 150 years?>> > > > > > > No, but the influence of this and other European > > arrogancies did. > > > > > > Not long after the time of the British governer's > > (whatever title > > > given) attempt to re-write some vedic writings to > > deliberately, > > > systematically, and proudly, subordinate it to > > christianity....Max > > > Muller, the hugely German scholar, for decades > > largely demened and > > > incorrectly downgraded the Vedic culture's > > presence and stature in > > > the region. So much so that to this day there is > > still an old school > > > of respected scholars who still believe that the > > vast epics of the > > > Vedas and Vedic tradition were largely the > > campfire stories of some > > > wandering Afghan peasant sheepherders and their > > marauding heirs. > > > However, the MAJORITY of modern scholarly thought > > is now realising > > > that the Vedas were in India long before any > > Afghan migration. But > > > Max Muller (along with other British repressions > > and other European > > > short-sightedness) was a HUGE figure in Vedic > > scholarly field (even > > > among westernised Indian scholars) and only very > > recently is being > > > toppled from his god-like status towards a less > > pompous and humbled > > > view of the vedic culture on the part of western > > scholars. > > > (I really wanted to study this whole thing as a > > PHD, and travel to > > > India to delve deeper into it, and write a book, > > but I don't suppose > > > I ever will now) > > > QUOTE: > > > ""Max Muller represented the bes, and at times the > > worst, of > > > nineteenth-century intellectual life. His work in > > the origins and > > > growth of language, mythology, and religion, > > typified Victorian > > > armchair scholarship: bold, adventurous, > > pioneering, sometimes > > > triumphalistic, but always convinced of its social > > and cultural > > > superiority. To be sure, there is much to admire, > > much to despise, > > > and much to be embarrassed by, in the antiquated > > scholarship of the > > > Victorian era as a whole. But as a pivotal period > > in the history of > > > human ideas, the historical and intellectual > > import of its scholarly > > > literature should not be ignored by historians or > > summarily > > > dismissed by present-day researchers as utterly > > worthless. Rather, > > > it should be read and understood within its own > > social and cultural > > > context. In the case of the voluminous and, at the > > time, influential > > > writings of Friedrich Max Muller, this observation > > proves no less > > > true. "" > > > http://www.wordtrade.com/society/mullermax.htm > > > > > > (If you have a one-liner, poorly thought out > > answer for your > > > response sparaig, you will be called "spare > > egghead" for 3 days by > > > me) > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! 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