--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: <snip> > > > > > Bingo. Judy may not remember her past lives or be > > > > > able to read someone else's incarnational profile, > > > > > but I occasionally can. She thinks that I'm trying > > > > > to goad her with this stuff about the Inquisition; > > > > > I'm trying to *remind* her. > > > > > > > > Oh, wow, no kidding, Barry. Gee, you should have > > > > told me that before. Maybe I'd have paid more > > > > attention. > > > > > > Might I suggest you read some of the works of > > > the Dominicans? I think you'd find them remarkably > > > familiar. > > > > > > No hard feelings. As always, you thought you were > > > doing the "right thing," and "defending" something > > > that never needed defending. And as always, the > > > more you "defended" it, the more you pushed it out > > > of the reach of the common man and into a cubbyhole > > > more characterized by darkness than light. > > > > Gosh, Barry, I'm convinced. I mean, I know you > > wouldn't steer me wrong on this. There's no > > doubt whatsoever in my mind that you can read > > my past lives like a book. You're just telling > > me for my own good, no question about it. > > Interestingly, you have said that to me before.
Well, of course I have. And I meant it then too. > The Cathars believed in reincarnation; the > Dominicans did not. Given the span of time it > took the Inquisitors to eliminate the Cathars > completely (and the short lifetimes compared to > now), it was common for the same Inquisitor to > torment the same "heretic" in several different > lifetimes. We tried to tell you *then* that you > were caught in an ugly cycle, but you didn't > learn then, either. We who? As a heretic, you told me, the Inquisitor, that I was caught in an ugly cycle, but I didn't pay any attention to you? My goodness. > I'll drop the subject, since it clearly makes > you uncomfortable, but there is a *great deal* > to be learned about the TMO by reading up on > the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages. And that has to do with me...what? I think you may have lost the thread here. You're ranting on and on about the TMO, but what I've been persecuting you about in this exchange is your dishonesty and hypocrisy generally, not your criticism of the TMO. I've never liked the TMO either, as you know. I've stayed as far away from it as possible. We *agree* that it sucks. Nor am I a big fan of Catholicism by any means, nor organized religion in general, and I'm strongly inclined to believe in reincarnation. It appears you've gotten your wires badly crossed somewhere along the line. <snip> > We keep trying to tell you this stuff, incar- > nation after incarnation, and you keep consider- > ing us your enemies for pointing out the obvious > and trying to *help* you. The way to spread TM > is for people to see smiles on the faces of its > practitioners and joy in their lives and thus > to want to find out what they're doing that > allows them to live that way. But instead you > show them faces full of fear and anger and elitism, > and you wonder why no one flocks to the courses. Barry, you're babbling. Just a few weeks ago you were dumping on me because *I* wasn't flocking to the current course. As to "elitism," we've had that discussion before too. As Richard Dawkins asks: "What's wrong with being elitist, if you are trying to encourage people to join the elite rather than being exclusive?" Which, oddly enough, echoes Ken Wilber: "All excellence is elitist. And that includes spiritual excellence as well. But spiritual excellence is an elitism to which all are invited. We go first to the great masters-- to Padmasambhava, to St. Teresa of Avila, to Gautama Buddha, to Lady Tsogyal, to Emerson, Eckhart, Maimonides, Shankara, Sri Ramana Maharshi, Bodhidharma, Garab Dorje. But their message is always the same: let this consciousness be in you which is in me. "You start elitist, always; you end up egalitarian, always." > I live in the south of France because I wanted > to fully understand the lessons of this particular > kind of conflict and get beyond it. You, however, > seem to want to perpetuate it forever. How sad. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
